Yes , Plaid had got almost the best result as Axis after Dyle plan ! But the result is come from his great Luftwaffe strategy . 4ftr & 5 Tac means he built 2 ftr & 3 tac before June 1940 .It means 480 pp investment . How many labs have to be delayed ? we will see the result of it in 1942-1943 .Cybvep wrote:That's not so bad. High air losses, but besides that, everything else looks acceptable. You should be able to conquer Yugoslavia in 1940, but I wouldn't go for Norway, as Morris will probably attack it the moment you start Barbarossa.
Plaid vs Morris №3
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Re: Plaid vs Morris №3
Remmeber that this strategy is very costly for the UK, he will have to spend a lot of PPs to repair and refit his army and RAF, also put PPs into research witch i doubt Morris does to some extent. If plaid can keept pressure in the atlantic with subs and suface ships UK will take longer time than usual to launch any kind of attacks.Cybvep wrote:That's not so bad. High air losses, but besides that, everything else looks acceptable. You should be able to conquer Yugoslavia in 1940, but I wouldn't go for Norway, as Morris will probably attack it the moment you start Barbarossa.
So an attack by UK in 41 is not likely, but then again you are playing Morris so it might be good to leave a few ports gaurded by corps.
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Sure, air losses and lower convoy revenue will make the life of the UK hard in 1940-1941, but even in this case they can afford to attack Norway the moment Germany DOWs the SU. If Plaid doesn't react, he will lose Norway. Everything the Axis ships to Norway becomes a big bonus for the Allies, too.
IMO Norway should only be attacked if you know that you can hold it for a while.
IMO Norway should only be attacked if you know that you can hold it for a while.
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Yes , UK can afford for everything since UK only lost one corp during the France campaign . It is easy to recover the loss of FTRs in two turns .Cybvep wrote:Sure, air losses and lower convoy revenue will make the life of the UK hard in 1940-1941, but even in this case they can afford to attack Norway the moment Germany DOWs the SU. If Plaid doesn't react, he will lose Norway. Everything the Axis ships to Norway becomes a big bonus for the Allies, too.
IMO Norway should only be attacked if you know that you can hold it for a while.
Thank you for the advice of Norway ! BUt we have to wait for the good opportunity .
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You knew me wellCrazygunner1 wrote:So an attack by UK in 41 is not likely, but then again you are playing Morris so it might be good to leave a few ports gaurded by corps.
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Now Yugoslavia invaded, as planned.
Probably it will take 2-4 turns to capture the place, but PPs from Hungary and Romania worth it.

Also built 10th lab this turn - now I have normal 2 2 2 2 2 build up.
Strategy for 1941 campaign is still a big question.
Probably it will take 2-4 turns to capture the place, but PPs from Hungary and Romania worth it.

Also built 10th lab this turn - now I have normal 2 2 2 2 2 build up.
Strategy for 1941 campaign is still a big question.
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I see I should be optimistic about this game length! 2 previous ones didn't reach 1943.Morris wrote: we will see the result of it in 1942-1943 .
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No action, but slow campaign in Yugoslavia. Weather is fair, so we secured outskirts of Belgrade and bombed city. Ready to attack on the
next turn.
My PPs were spent to repair units all over the board.
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This turn weather is mud, so little progress in Yugoslavia. Mostly securing hexes near Belgrade for next turn assault.
At least our casualties were quite low.

Allies DoWed and conquered Syria.
In Atlantic we spotted and attacked new convoy.

At least our casualties were quite low.

Allies DoWed and conquered Syria.
In Atlantic we spotted and attacked new convoy.

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Again (like in 1939) got fair November turn, which allowed to capture Belgrade.
Italian armour still suffered some damage from Yugoslavian troops in the west.

I was not right previous turn, when said, that convoy will be finished off. This 19 PPs are getting away, while we wait for
next one.

Our next plans are announced. Since Morris have little or no naval assets in the MED (I had seen MED BB squadrons elsewhere
+ note high axis supply limit for NA) our targets will be Greece and Malta.
Italian armour still suffered some damage from Yugoslavian troops in the west.

I was not right previous turn, when said, that convoy will be finished off. This 19 PPs are getting away, while we wait for
next one.

Our next plans are announced. Since Morris have little or no naval assets in the MED (I had seen MED BB squadrons elsewhere
+ note high axis supply limit for NA) our targets will be Greece and Malta.
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Preparations for attacking Greece are underway. 2 mech units railed to Taranto. Next turn both of them will get +1 attack
leaders. This way we almost sure achieve 1 turn conquest of Athens.

By the way I still need air range upgrade before starting. Its 93% right now. When 1941 starts I will buy more air and infantry
labs as soon as possible, in an attempt to catch up for what we missed in 1940 with all this air builds.
leaders. This way we almost sure achieve 1 turn conquest of Athens.

By the way I still need air range upgrade before starting. Its 93% right now. When 1941 starts I will buy more air and infantry
labs as soon as possible, in an attempt to catch up for what we missed in 1940 with all this air builds.
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Most of my units are in place to strike Malta and Greece. All what I need now is range upgrade (97% at the moment), but
spare time to build effectiveness does not hurt. We have more then enough air units for both at the same time.

I have no vision of Malta and not sure, if fighter is there.
spare time to build effectiveness does not hurt. We have more then enough air units for both at the same time.

I have no vision of Malta and not sure, if fighter is there.
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Still no range upgrade (99%!), but got dog fight one, its also fine.

Our italian DD squad spotted british subs. It can trouble our Greece invasion, going overland is considered now
(even ralied panzer unit).

Our italian DD squad spotted british subs. It can trouble our Greece invasion, going overland is considered now
(even ralied panzer unit).
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Well, its not only 1 sub, its actually both british ones.
On the good side our subs checked MED ports and found no other naval untis.

We will lose this italian DD now. Also any naval landing in Greece is now problematic. Next turn we invade from Yugoslavia and also
start attack against Matla. All upgrades placed and air units are ready.
On the good side our subs checked MED ports and found no other naval untis.

We will lose this italian DD now. Also any naval landing in Greece is now problematic. Next turn we invade from Yugoslavia and also
start attack against Matla. All upgrades placed and air units are ready.
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This turn we finally invade Greece and started our attacks against Malta.
Much to my surprise italian DD still survives, so we scored few air hits against british subs.

Malta defenders are quite in trouble - initial air (1 strategic bomber and 1 tactical one) and naval (3 battleship fleetes) reduced
Malta fighter from 5 to 2 steps (its not upgraded at all) and garrison to 7 steps. Also city is already yellow.
After one more turn of this Morris will be able to repair only 1 step/turn. Our paratroopers will arrive next turn aswell.
Much to my surprise italian DD still survives, so we scored few air hits against british subs.

Malta defenders are quite in trouble - initial air (1 strategic bomber and 1 tactical one) and naval (3 battleship fleetes) reduced
Malta fighter from 5 to 2 steps (its not upgraded at all) and garrison to 7 steps. Also city is already yellow.
After one more turn of this Morris will be able to repair only 1 step/turn. Our paratroopers will arrive next turn aswell.
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Not sure about Malta, but Greece will be easier to defend than Norway, so I think that it's a good choice if you are not attacking Norway.
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Malta is a very good choice. It will make defending Italy much easier.
Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
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Morris didn't repair Malta fighter, so it was easy kill for luftwaffe with 2 steps.
Our armor formations reach Athens outskirts, city can surrender right on the next turn, maybe they hold for 2 turns.
Malta is fine, fortress goes red meaning no further repairs. Now I can use tactical bomber instead of strategic, which means
defenders will lose more steps.

Paratroopers also arrive, but they have low effectiveness (~59). Will be ready to drop in few turns, but maybe bombers will destroy
Malta garrison by that time (saving PPs for paradrop and repairs never hurts).
By the way got 2 0:0 rolls against british sub with my air units. Its lucky one (unlike second one, which is 3 steps now).
Not sure, maybe they will get one of my italian battleships. I can accept it, they are useless in lategame anyway.
Our armor formations reach Athens outskirts, city can surrender right on the next turn, maybe they hold for 2 turns.
Malta is fine, fortress goes red meaning no further repairs. Now I can use tactical bomber instead of strategic, which means
defenders will lose more steps.

Paratroopers also arrive, but they have low effectiveness (~59). Will be ready to drop in few turns, but maybe bombers will destroy
Malta garrison by that time (saving PPs for paradrop and repairs never hurts).
By the way got 2 0:0 rolls against british sub with my air units. Its lucky one (unlike second one, which is 3 steps now).
Not sure, maybe they will get one of my italian battleships. I can accept it, they are useless in lategame anyway.
Re: Plaid vs Morris №3
It was careless mistake again ! I forgot to supply it at allPlaid wrote:Morris didn't repair Malta fighter, so it was easy kill for luftwaffe with 2 steps.
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What about Crete? Do you plan to take it?



