Helsinki

neilhammond · Post by **neilhammond** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:42 pm

I'd be interested in Helsinki if there was FOG. I'm not interesting in going for DBM. However, at this stage I can't commit as a definite.

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:59 pm

peterrjohnston wrote:
Well, if the IWC was to be opened-up to more periods/rulesets, surely the current state of flux in ancients is an ideal time to start?

Rgds,
Peter

I would think so.

I'd also prefer to see a FoG World Championship under the IWF banner than be a separate event, however, I'd bet that if the IWF don't embrace it early then Osprey & Slitherine will set something up and I don't think that would be good for maintaining and growing an international wargaming community in the wider sense.

jdm · Post by **jdm** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:43 pm

Pete

This thread should probably get cross posted to the main list.

Regards
JDM

bddbrown · Post by **bddbrown** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:58 pm

So, reading through the posts be have:

Pete Dalby
Nik Gaukroger (interested but cannot commit)
Ray Duggins
Bruce Brown
Andy Ellis
Ian McNeil
Bob Amey (volenteered)
David Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Linda Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Neil Hammond (interested but cannot commit)

jlopez · Post by **jlopez** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:42 am

jdm wrote:
dvorkin wrote:Hi

I think french players would come if a fog tournament is organized.
I'll be present.

Dvorkin
Hi Divorkin

Can you post to the french forum to guage interest there. Anyone speak Spanish

JDM

JD,

Will post on the Spanish forum.

Julian

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:18 am

bddbrown wrote:So, reading through the posts be have:

Pete Dalby
Nik Gaukroger (interested but cannot commit)
Ray Duggins
Bruce Brown
Andy Ellis
Ian McNeil
Bob Amey (volenteered)
David Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Linda Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Neil Hammond (interested but cannot commit)

I think Hammy, Terry and maybe Si are also in the "interested but cannot commit" category - fairly certain they would only go for FoG though.

carlos · Post by **carlos** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:03 am

I can't commit either, but I'd be interested as well.

davidandlynda · Post by **davidandlynda** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:17 am

We've already entered so we are going,it just deciding by end of December
David

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:28 pm

I would want to play FoG

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:42 pm

Would you go if FoG wasn't on offer?

terrys · Post by **terrys** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:44 pm

I think Hammy, Terry and maybe Si are also in the "interested but cannot commit" category - fairly certain they would only go for FoG though.

I'll be happy to go - but only for FoG

rayfredjohn · Post by **rayfredjohn** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:05 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:Would you go if FoG wasn't on offer?

No I wouldn't.

Ray

bddbrown · Post by **bddbrown** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:42 pm

Pete Dalby
Ray Duggins
Bruce Brown
Andy Ellis
Ian McNeil
Bob Amey (volenteered)
David Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Linda Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Nik Gaukroger (interested but cannot commit)
Neil Hammond (interested but cannot commit)

Terry Shaw
David Ruddock (maybe instead of DBM)

madaxeman · Post by **madaxeman** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:44 am

bddbrown wrote:Pete Dalby
Ray Duggins
Bruce Brown
Andy Ellis
Ian McNeil
Bob Amey (volenteered)
David Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Linda Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Nik Gaukroger (interested but cannot commit)
Neil Hammond (interested but cannot commit)

Terry Shaw
David Ruddock (maybe instead of DBM)

No disrespect to any of the worthies on this list, but everyone here is, ahem, a Brit. Seems a long way to go to play other Brits from this list whilst drinking expensive beer, a couple of weeks after playing what is sure to be almost exactly the same set of people in Ascot. Probaby with the same armies if DBM experience is anything to go by...

I've no intention of going to play DBM either - but I think I would only be tempted to go for FoG if there was the prospect of a truly international set of competitors so I may get to play different people playing in different ways. I'm not sure how possible thats going to be this time around given publication dates etc....

Maybe one for next year instead - whereever that is going to be?

(Or Osprey/FoG does some sort of tie-up with FoW and launches a "pretty rule book World Championships" held at another place and time

)

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:54 am

madaxeman wrote:No disrespect to any of the worthies on this list, but everyone here is, ahem, a Brit. Seems a long way to go to play other Brits from this list whilst drinking expensive beer, a couple of weeks after playing what is sure to be almost exactly the same set of people in Ascot. Probaby with the same armies if DBM experience is anything to go by...

I've no intention of going to play DBM either - but I think I would only be tempted to go for FoG if there was the prospect of a truly international set of competitors so I may get to play different people playing in different ways. I'm not sure how possible thats going to be this time around given publication dates etc....

Maybe one for next year instead - whereever that is going to be?

(Or Osprey/FoG does some sort of tie-up with FoW and launches a "pretty rule book World Championships" held at another place and time )

At the moment there are similar threads in the French and Spanish forums but as my grasp of the language is well poor I can't be sure what they are saying. I think that there is some interest in both countries.

The real issue is that if there is not a FoG comp in Helsinki who will go to play DBM anyway?

terrys · Post by **terrys** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:57 am

The real issue is that if there is not a FoG comp in Helsinki who will go to play DBM anyway?

Perhaps you should ask this question on the DBMList

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:02 pm

terrys wrote:
The real issue is that if there is not a FoG comp in Helsinki who will go to play DBM anyway?
Perhaps you should ask this question on the DBMList

Asking it here is IMO risky enough. If I ask it on the DBM list then I will be accused of all sorts of neffarious plans

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:14 pm

hammy wrote:
At the moment there are similar threads in the French and Spanish forums but as my grasp of the language is well poor I can't be sure what they are saying. I think that there is some interest in both countries.

Some in France, little in Spain I think - use Babelfish to translate some posts

hammy wrote:
The real issue is that if there is not a FoG comp in Helsinki who will go to play DBM anyway?

That'd be the 20/30 people (to date) listed on the Helsinki website ...

Lets not get silly about this, there will be a large DBM comp at Helsinki, maybe not the largest IWF ever but still a good sized comp - and IMO it'll be bigger than FoG should there be a FoG comp.

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:37 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:
Would you go if FoG wasn't on offer?

Don't know. Maybe. Given that I am not playing any DBM at the club and the maximum number of future comps I am doing is one (i.e. Helsinki maybe) then I would make more of an effort to play FoG than DBM.

Are they offering DBMM at Helsinki?

jlopez · Post by **jlopez** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:46 pm

I suspect you will get two or three French players and few if any Spanish players (44 views of my post, no volunteers...).

Bear in mind that the average wage in Spain is somewhere around 10.000 GBP per year. A trip abroad, Finland in particular, is prohibitively expensive for the majority of players. I, for one, can't afford it.

Julian