”XV century AD – Mediterranean Campaign”

[Triarii]

The court of Alfonso the Magnamimous wishes to announce the succesful defence of Languedoc against the forces of Aragon.
His most Catholic Majesty also wishes to show his deication to the cause of peace by suspending his invasion of Murcia and instead dispathing his emissaries to Castille to suggest a mutual non-aggression pact.

Upon a favourable response from Castille the forces waiting upon the border of Catalonia to invade Navarre will be disbanded.

This representation is made without the expectation of cost to either kingdom.

LN AT from Aragon to Murcia *... Suspended.
LN AT from Catalonia to Navarre *...

Result in Languedoc
Aragon 56/64
Castille 68/67

[Lysimachos]

The court of Alfonso the Magnamimous wishes to announce the succesful defence of Languedoc against the forces of Aragon.
His most Catholic Majesty also wishes to show his deication to the cause of peace by suspending his invasion of Murcia and instead dispathing his emissaries to Castille to suggest a mutual non-aggression pact.

Upon a favourable response from Castille the forces waiting upon the border of Catalonia to invade Navarre will be disbanded.

This representation is made without the expectation of cost to either kingdom.

LN AT from Aragon to Murcia *... Suspended.
LN AT from Catalonia to Navarre *...

Result in Languedoc
Aragon 56/64
Castille 68/67

Hi Mike,
given the fact that every player may only make 2 actions at the same time your diplomatic mission isn't liable at the moment if you don't call off your attack.
Action's suspension is not foreseen, with the only exception of a player remaining involved in an attack vs another player which disappears from the game leaving him in the impossibility of ending the action.
So you have to decide if calling off your attack and dispatching the diplomatic mission or to carry on with the attack.

(Of course no problem of this kind arises if you secretly PM to Chris your proposal while formally avoiding to call off the attack until a reply clarify to you if Chris is going to accept the deal)

[Lysimachos]

After a prolonged debate The Doge and his closest advisors persuaded the Major Council to fund a new invasion of Albania in order to gain territorial continuity on the Adriatic shores!

Venetians LN AT Albania from Epirus
400 pts. battle / DM and FoW on
Defending army led by a player randomly chosen with the lottery draw of Tuesday.

[Lysimachos]

In order to give thanks to God for all the benefits and favours showed to the Republic the Minor Council has come to the decision of building a Church in Negroponte.

[iandavidsmith]

Word has travelled to the ears of Constantine in the Byzantine Empire of the liberation of Emilia by an
rebel army raised from Tuscany.
If one would look closely at that moment one might be able to see a small smile in the corner of his thin lips.

Condotta Florence 11/57 vs 40/52 Condotta Milan (resigned)

Presume Emilia liberated to a independent province

Do i get any coin ?

Thanks for the game Pete,
Cheers
Ian

[iandavidsmith]

Next Byzantine Action....

Building a 2nd Fleet

Cheers
Ian

[stockwellpete]

After the humiliating defeat suffered by the Milanese at the hands of the Florentines (and Swiss!) the Visconti has abdicated and has retired to run his goat sanctuary on the island of Samos.

[kilroy1]

The allied army from Campania has liberated Lazio from the Milanese.

Neopolitan 25/45
Milanese 40/39

kilroy

[TheGrayMouser]

action:

build an acedemy

allied attack fom Calabria into Venetian Apulia

750 dm fog on

password: trifecta

[Lysimachos]

After the humiliating defeat suffered by the Milanese at the hands of the Florentines (and Swiss!) the Visconti has abdicated and has retired to run his goat sanctuary on the island of Samos.

This is to inform all the Regnants that Eric Sforza has taken control of the Milanese power.
Let everybody tremble and fret!

[Lysimachos]

The allied army from Campania has liberated Lazio from the Milanese.

Neopolitan 25/45
Milanese 40/39

kilroy

As Pete reminded me in Lazio there are Fortifications so, to decide if the siege is successful, we'll have to wait the results of this evening Italian Lottery draw.

[Lysimachos]

Word has travelled to the ears of Constantine in the Byzantine Empire of the liberation of Emilia by an
rebel army raised from Tuscany.
If one would look closely at that moment one might be able to see a small smile in the corner of his thin lips.

Condotta Florence 11/57 vs 40/52 Condotta Milan (resigned)

Presume Emilia liberated to a independent province

Do i get any coin ?

Thanks for the game Pete,
Cheers
Ian

No coins Ian given the fact that you earned a strategic victory, freeding Emilia, and not a tactical one.
But you gained 1 stability level anyway!

[Triarii]

The court of Alfonso the Magnamimous wishes to announce the succesful defence of Languedoc against the forces of Aragon.
His most Catholic Majesty also wishes to show his deication to the cause of peace by suspending his invasion of Murcia and instead dispathing his emissaries to Castille to suggest a mutual non-aggression pact.

Upon a favourable response from Castille the forces waiting upon the border of Catalonia to invade Navarre will be disbanded.

This representation is made without the expectation of cost to either kingdom.

LN AT from Aragon to Murcia *... Suspended.
LN AT from Catalonia to Navarre *...

Result in Languedoc
Aragon 56/64
Castille 68/67

Hi Mike,
given the fact that every player may only make 2 actions at the same time your diplomatic mission isn't liable at the moment if you don't call off your attack.
Action's suspension is not foreseen, with the only exception of a player remaining involved in an attack vs another player which disappears from the game leaving him in the impossibility of ending the action.
So you have to decide if calling off your attack and dispatching the diplomatic mission or to carry on with the attack.

(Of course no problem of this kind arises if you secretly PM to Chris your proposal while formally avoiding to call off the attack until a reply clarify to you if Chris is going to accept the deal)

After the most Catholic conclave and raprochement at Valencia. Both attacks into Castille are now called off.
A diplomatic mission is currently being entertained lavishly in Madrid.
An aragonese force has left Sicily for the shores of Calabria

Action 1 Diplomatic mission to Castille
Action 2 Invasion of Calabria across straights of Messina

[Lysimachos]

These are the results of the lottery draw of this evening, with the first number of each wheel going to decide which player will lead the Albanians vs the Venetians and the second number on the wheels of Bari (Byzantines) deciding the outcome of the siege in Lazio.

The first number results are the following:
Bari 90 (iandavidsmith)
Napoli 88 (kilroy)
Firenze 87 (Stockwellpete)
which means that the Albanian army will fight against the Venetians under the command of Ian.

The second number results is the following:
Bari 36 (iandavidsmith)
which means that the siege failed and that Lazio is still a Milanese possession.

[Lysimachos]

No coins Ian given the fact that you earned a strategic victory, freeding Emilia, and not a tactical one.
But you gained 1 stability level anyway!

Well, after the failure of the siege and the transformation of a strategic victory into a tactical one, you'll at least gain the 40 ducats due to the subsequent plunder!

[Lysimachos]

After the most Catholic conclave and raprochement at Valencia. Both attacks into Castille are now called off.
A diplomatic mission is currently being entertained lavishly in Madrid.
An aragonese force has left Sicily for the shores of Calabria

Action 1 Diplomatic mission to Castille
Action 2 Invasion of Calabria across straights of Messina

No naval encounter has to be fought because independent provinces owns no fleets and the leader of the independent Calabrian army will be decided with the lottery draw of Thursday.

[TheGrayMouser]

The Ottomans successfully drive off the Milanese backed White Sheep invasion. The Sheeps deployed well on the top of Mt Doom(btw has anyone ever gotten the Mt Doom map? my ist and hopefully last!) but when news came of the abdication of their paymaster the Doge, it threw their ranks into confusion and then destruction.

[stockwellpete]

Just in case anybody else is a bit annoyed with me for leaving the campaign (one player is) the reason I have left is because I feel I have no chance at all with the Milanese army, particularly against the quality of players that are present in this tournament. My overall record with the Milanese in the last 6 weeks (including friendlies) is played 10, won 2, lost 8 and I am just fed up with having to play with them when I know I am going to lose every time. It is not enjoyable at all and I first indicated that I wanted to give my place to someone else over a month ago. The Milanese were my third choice army and I didn't think that I would have to use them - they are only marginally better than the Papal States army who were NAFF army of the year for 2011. I was also fairly certain that another player could be found to take my place (otherwise I would not have dropped out).

I think the ideas developed in this campaign are excellent and many of them can be applied to other campaigns in other time periods but more care needs to be taken at the start of the campaign to make sure all the players have a chance to do well in the campaign - the weaker players (and that includes me in this instance) should not be given the weakest armies as has happened here. I know that two other players feel similarly about their army allocation in this campaign and it helps to explain why some players have been relatively passive in their play - they know that they have little chance. I have discussed most of this with Lysimachos by PM and we have very similar ideas about how things might be done a bit better in the future.

[Lysimachos]

Excuse me everybody!

The more the campaign progresses the more I get confused ..
In fact the Allied Attack on Lazio was led by the Mamluks and it was their 2nd number on the wheel of Napoli that had to be considered in order to determine the outcome of the siege.
So, given the fact that the Kilroy scored a 62, the fortifications are destroyed and the province is conquered!
(Thanks to the fairness of Pete who pointed out the circumstance to me).

Consequently, no more 40 ducats for the Byzantines (that conquered Emilia) and plus 40 ducats to the Milanese, to which they were illegaly subtracted (but without the province of Lazio).

[Lysimachos]

Just in case anybody else is a bit annoyed with me for leaving the campaign (one player is) the reason I have left is because I feel I have no chance at all with the Milanese army, particularly against the quality of players that are present in this tournament. My overall record with the Milanese in the last 6 weeks (including friendlies) is played 10, won 2, lost 8 and I am just fed up with having to play with them when I know I am going to lose every time. It is not enjoyable at all and I first indicated that I wanted to give my place to someone else over a month ago. The Milanese were my third choice army and I didn't think that I would have to use them - they are only marginally better than the Papal States army who were NAFF army of the year for 2011. I was also fairly certain that another player could be found to take my place (otherwise I would not have dropped out).

I think the ideas developed in this campaign are excellent and many of them can be applied to other campaigns in other time periods but more care needs to be taken at the start of the campaign to make sure all the players have a chance to do well in the campaign - the weaker players (and that includes me in this instance) should not be given the weakest armies as has happened here. I know that two other players feel similarly about their army allocation in this campaign and it helps to explain why some players have been relatively passive in their play - they know that they have little chance. I have discussed most of this with Lysimachos by PM and we have very similar ideas about how things might be done a bit better in the future.

I don't think there's room to be annoyed if a player abandons the game.
This eventuality was foreseen in the rules and until he remained in the game I guess Pete was the player that made more actions of all and also gave a lot of suggestions, being in some way the best player I could hope to find.
On the other hand it's quite clear that I should be the only one player really annoyed by the news, having now Eric close to my door, who doesn't seem to represen the ideal neighbour!

About the other matters I substantially agree with Pete and, as I wrote yesterday to Chris, next time I'll be careful in avoiding that too many good players get stucked in the same map's corner or that weaker players gets worse armies.
But this was only a first attempt or, in other words, a "work in progress" where some mistakes were needed to understand the full mechanism of the rules that, generally, seemed anyway to work quite well.
Particularly I feel that we have now reached a good mix of diplomatic, building and military actions, while avoiding a fixed mechanism of turns leaves everybody the chance of playing with his own rythm.

Every suggestion is anyway welcomed and I would be happy to know what each of you really think of the campaign up till now, given that we have only 20 days left before the deadline!