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Cool Mike, you're a German now... Since that solves all of your complaints, not a peep more out of you from now, right?!k9mike wrote:Jon, If you want another for Germans I will join if you want. That will make 2 of us in US...But, if need me to stay with Allies I will. Its getting tough, but it is fun to try and hold...
Technically no... But practically, I think it might be possible... There is some code that I'd like to experiment with... Can we leave it as it is for the next round, and I'll see if I can get something working for the round after...Granfali wrote:Well, I suppose swapping sides allows german player deploys. It is this can be done John?
We read you loud and clear... Hope we didn't miss anything vital? Erm... a lot of stuff happened while you were away...gortwillsaveus wrote:I've been posting a few messages but they seem to be dissapearing??? This is a test messge.
Hey Granfali, that's a fair solution.Granfali wrote:This round have to be ended as it began. So all of us have to play honestly. My intentions, as german, were to take three flags and take the map. I am very near of it.. so if you want we can call a truce, but this map will be german 8AM ok?
Same procedure for Hermanville Gort?
Sorry, don't understand what you mean. Why not to continue with the current situation? (forces and maps conquered of course)GottaLove88s wrote: Hey Granfali, that's a fair solution.
Ok, let's rewind back to everyone's strengths and locations at the end of June 7th AM, before June 7th PM started.
We'll push the clock forward to June 8th AM. Bring the June 8th AM units onto Sword, Coursuelles, Juno, Vill Boc and Orne B.
Then let's give our orders...
Sorry Granfali...I surrendered the map...I took only one more casualty during that last turn you did...one 17pdr destroyed.Granfali wrote:Mike, please, send me the next turn to take note of casualities
Hey G, I think we mean the same thing...Granfali wrote:Sorry, don't understand what you mean. Why not to continue with the current situation? (forces and maps conquered of course)GottaLove88s wrote:Hey Granfali, that's a fair solution.Granfali wrote:This round have to be ended as it began. So all of us have to play honestly. My intentions, as german, were to take three flags and take the map. I am very near of it.. so if you want we can call a truce, but this map will be german 8AM ok?
Same procedure for Hermanville Gort?
Ok, let's rewind back to everyone's strengths and locations at the end of June 7th AM, before June 7th PM started.
We'll push the clock forward to June 8th AM. Bring the June 8th AM units onto Sword, Coursuelles, Juno, Vill Boc and Orne B.
Then let's give our orders...
k9mike, GWSU, morge4 & I ready to try to defend German Normandie.
We accept your proposal. We swap sides and nothing else gets changed...
But I'm sure we'll convince you, while GJS is amazing, there are a few things that are worth considering changing...
My interpretation is we finish 7thPM as normal, swap sides for 8th AM, and units get retreated as they would. I do not see any need to start 7thPM again?GottaLove88s wrote:Hey G, I think we mean the same thing...Granfali wrote:Sorry, don't understand what you mean. Why not to continue with the current situation? (forces and maps conquered of course)GottaLove88s wrote:Hey Granfali, that's a fair solution.
Ok, let's rewind back to everyone's strengths and locations at the end of June 7th AM, before June 7th PM started.
We'll push the clock forward to June 8th AM. Bring the June 8th AM units onto Sword, Coursuelles, Juno, Vill Boc and Orne B.
Then let's give our orders...
k9mike, GWSU, morge4 & I ready to try to defend German Normandie.
We accept your proposal. We swap sides and nothing else gets changed...
But I'm sure we'll convince you, while GJS is amazing, there are a few things that are worth considering changing...
When you said "this round have to be ended as it began", I assumed that you meant we should rewind to where we were at the beginning of June 7th PM. It made sense to me but I may have misunderstood your meaning?
Ok, ok, TIME OUT... Let's let Mike and Gort finish up in BdB and Hermanville and then figure out what's going on... I'm confused as heck now...GottaLove88s wrote:2. regular infantry are feeble... Regular grunts are easily mown down by a combined mortar, MG42 and 251s... even when Allied regulars arrive in cover (house/forest) in large numbers with mortar support of their own... Given that Allies have all of their force strength in infantry (about 650 units vs 350 German regulars), these weaklings are a major disadvantage... with no medic/rally bonus... Once infantry are suppressed they're pretty much dead in GJS, so suppression becomes meaningless
Granfali wrote:Hehehe, come on guys, if we convert this campaign in a sunday walk it will become boring for both sides. The best way you consider your petitions is player as german. I assure you that you won't think the same.
For the moment british side have fight vs second line infantry and weak BGs. Only one 21Pz BG has something decent with plenty of PzIV (Lebisey battle), rest are a handful of stugs, marders, 251/9... no way to do anything...
Winning is not important for me, I only want to enjoy with this... If I lose (what is most probably) I will shake your hands and will tell you "congratulations".
I have lots of data to answer your petitions, but takes me a lot to write in english, so please give me some time to traduce them and expose them.
Ultimately, if you think this campaign is unbalanced (for the german side) please consider exchange the sides... you take german and british for meGottaLove88s wrote:WE ACCEPT!!
Right guys, who wants a Tiger/Waffen SS BG...?
Granfali wrote:I'm not opposed to change anything, just thinking that we should not change everything.
A thing we need to change is infantry resistance (I am working with "moraletool.bsf" in a good direction, hope tell you something good tomorrow). Another thing is reduce mortar suppresion power.
The only aspect I consider we should keep as now is the forces relation and strong BGs, specially 4 superb german BGs (panther/tiger).
Aha! Ok that makes sense. I think Mike resigned in BdB so not sure who won? Not sure where Gort is at? I got kicked out of Lebisey. You took Bayeux. Oh yes, and Random had his usual romp in Colombelles... If we really are switching to Germans, Granfali and Random, are going to be a nightmare, lol!!morge4 wrote: My interpretation is we finish 7thPM as normal, swap sides for 8th AM, and units get retreated as they would. I do not see any need to start 7thPM again?
GottaLove88s wrote:Cool Mike, you're a German now... Since that solves all of your complaints, not a peep more out of you from now, right?!
They will certainly be a handfulGottaLove88s wrote:If we really are switching to Germans, Granfali and Random, are going to be a nightmare, lol!!
random27 wrote:Sorry for my allies but i think i agree with granfali , we have fought against his weakenest troops, maybe he has taken less pleasure than us (especially in the first turn when he had quite only volksgrenadier troops)
I don t play this campaign absolutly to win it , i only want to continue to take pleasure every turn, we don thave fought against great tanks but i m sure we have chances to win.
And if we lose it will be very interesting to find solutions.I ve never thought we could win very fast and maybe i ve hopped that it takes a lot of turns just to have pleasure to play
Maybe we ve forgotten that granfali is the one who has proposed the campaign and he has thought about a lot of things.
I think we can trust him when he says he has done that only for fun.(i don ' t know him at all in reality but i appreciate a lot what he s doing)
Let s battle against him some more turn to see if it s impossible to win ok ?
