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Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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If you have any reports of text based errors, such as misspelling or typos in briefings or in city names or anywhere else, please put all reports in this thread. Thanks!
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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Re: briefings. I assume as a DLC add-on, this will not have voice-overs for the briefings? I ask only because if so, then definitely get the guy who did AK! The basic PC game voice-overs are very good. But the man who did AK just really hit a home run. Haven't seen any comments on that elsewhere. I'm not sure which of the two credited voice actors is which, but the AK one was outstanding.
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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ST Nazaire...Paragraph 4 ... should be "on the other front"
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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Bordeaux scenario message/breifing:
Your objective is to secure all Victory Hex Objectives...


Syracuse scenario/message briefing:
...successfully escorted off the map will be... (this note appears to repeat on future briefings, too.)


Etna Line briefings: (north and south)
...the Allied controlled victory hexes...
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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BayonneA.pzbrf

<p>We'll been supplying you with some extra material shortly, I'm sure you'll be able to put them to good use!</p>

Iam no native speaker but that sounds odd..
Its "the material" hence you must put it to good use
as far as I understand english sytanx some material can not be them in this particular context

Or
supplying you with some extra units , then you could put them (the units) to good use
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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St. Nazaire briefing:

"I am certain that you will perform your duties and lead your men with the utmost ability."
better: "lead your men to the utmost of your ability."

"share intelligence with you as it becomes available during these briefings." (is OK actually, but to non-native speakers might implicate new info becoming available during briefings)
maybe less confusing: "share the latest intelligence with you through these briefings as it becomes available."

"Now then, as the war in the East and Afrika continue"
better: "Now then, as the war in the East and in Afrika continues"

"That is where you come in."
stylistically better: "This is where you come in."

Already posted by snakepliskin2010 (it's Plissken, blasphemer :P ), but there were several fronts at the time, so my suggestion is different:
"As the war on other front places heavy demand"
better: "As the war on other fronts places heavy demand"

Couple of questions:
harbor or harbour? Please let me know if you intent on American or British English spelling throughout the game.

This copy-pasting of pieces of sentences is time-consuming for both sides, I could also open the briefing pzbrf files in Word, edit them and save them in Unicode with a txt extension, then attach the file on the forum or just post the whole briefing in text. This way I can more quickly edit the mistakes and you won't need to cut'n'paste everything here in various files, and the others can read them as well (txt format) and point out my mistakes or other improvements. Some mistakes are more stylistical in nature, so it's harder to correct them, because everyone has different ideas of course. I'm not a native speaker and certainly not perfect but this way I can very rapidly plow through all briefings and post corrections, is this OK? If yes, do you want me to post the text or attach .txt files?

BTW, will the library be further updated? There wasn't time during AK Beta to implement all corrections but I still have all my proposed corrections in Word-format, as posted in the old thread viewtopic.php?f=125&t=36143
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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St Nazaire is spelled incorrectly (in the forum topic, too).
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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I will focus on these errors as I am afraid I won't be able to test a single scenario (playing too much GW2 atm, and I am still not through Africa Corps!) but I will go full force Grammar Nazi over all text errors, for the cause! :)

I recommend taking a look a the text files with a text editor after you noticed something odd while playing. Makes things easier for you and the devs.
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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2nd Salerno scenario briefing (game calls both 'Salerno Landing'):
After being forced back time and...
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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Ok, here we go... I put all the briefing files plus a .txt file with the scenario messages in a zip file, even those where I did not correct anything. One for each scenario. This way everybody can easily access and further correct the texts and my proposed changes. Just let me know if this works or not. I'll hope to continue later.

EDIT: removed files.
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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ThvN wrote:Ok, here we go... I put all the briefing files plus a .txt file with the scenario messages in a zip file, even those where I did not correct anything. One for each scenario. This way everybody can easily access and further correct the texts and my proposed changes. Just let me know if this works or not. I'll hope to continue later.
Although the effort is appreciated, we have to have all text corrections in suggestion form, not as actual ready made corrections. We are more than happy to make corrections where necessary, but we won't be able to make use of any files. It's a noble intention, but it's also a slippery slope issue.
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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Kerensky wrote:Although the effort is appreciated, we have to have all text corrections in suggestion form, not as actual ready made corrections. We are more than happy to make corrections where necessary, but we won't be able to make use of any files. It's a noble intention, but it's also a slippery slope issue.
Thanks for the feedback, I wasn't sure if it was a good idea or not. I'll stick to the normal system.
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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Bayonne.pzloc
IDS_STRING27 irun -> to Irun

Catanzaro.pzloc
OK

Dieppe.pzloc
OK

Etna Line North.pzloc
IDS_STRING45 Cateanuova -> Catenanuova
IDS_STRING50 Bronted -> Bronte
IDS_STRING66 Olivarella-corriolo -> Olivarella-Corriolo

Etna Line South.pzloc
IDS_STRING45 Cateanuova -> Catenanuova
IDS_STRING50 Bronted -> Bronte

Gironde.pzloc
IDS_SCEN_DESCRIPTION Operation Frankton is launched against the port of Bordeaux with an aim to disable or destroy docked cargo ships. -> with the aim
IDS_STRING26 Begandan -> Begadan, actually Bégadan

Hardelot.pzloc
IDS_STRING38 St. Josse -> Saint-Josse-ten-Noode usually shortend to Saint-Josse. Dunno if St. Josse works too.
IDS_STRING39 La Liane River -> Liane River. No other river got the "La" prefix, so why the Liane?

Messina.pzloc
OK

Salerno Counter-Attack.pzloc
OK

Salerno Landing.pzloc
OK

St.Naizare.pzloc <--- Saint-Nazaire, often St Nazaire without the . behind the St. Not Naizare, it's Nazaire.
IDS_STRING23 St. Naizare
IDS_STRING24 St. Naizare Dock <- see above
IDS_SCEN_AXIS_CAM_OBJECTIVES <i>Decisive Victory:</i><br/>Defend the Normandie dock AND all U-Boats survive.<br/><br/><i>Marginal Victory:</i><br/>At least 1 U-boat survives. <- Normadie Dock, (capital D for dock like on the map) and "all U-Boats must survive"

Syracuse.pzloc
OK

Taranto.pzloc
IDS_SCEN_DESCRIPTION German forces attempt interrupt Operation Slapstick by destroying the Italian Navy before they fall into Allied hands. <- attempt to interrupt

Volturno Line.pzloc
IDS_SCEN_DESCRIPTION Allied Forces continue their advance toward Rome only to face a series of Axis defensive lines. <- towards

I hope a native speaker takes care of the briefings, there are quite some sentences rather than just words to correct.
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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I continue with St. Nazaire.

St. NaizareC_marginal.pzbrf:

"St. Naizare" should be "St. Nazaire"

"England" I believe this should be "Great Britain", as England refers to a part of Great Britain, it is like saying Wales or Northern Ireland. Same thing for the DV briefing St. NaizareB_decisive.pzbrf

Scenario message 1:

"There are reports of Allied Commandos already inside St. Nazaire Harbor, defend the Normandie Dock!"

Commandos is only with a capital C if it is the British Commandos (official name), and there is a surplus space after it. And, to be very technical, "Harbor" should be "port", because St. Nazaire has multiple harbors, but I don't think it's important. So:

"There are reports of Allied commandos already inside St. Nazaire harbor, defend the Normandie Dock!"

Scenario message 2, and this is some serious nitpicking, so I'm sorry if this is a bit far-fetched:

"HMS Campbeltown has exploded! There are reports of serious damage to the Normandie Dock gates!"

This sentence is correct, but I can imagine someone who didn't know or look at the ship's name reacting puzzled, allthough I like the name being mentioned. So maybe something like:

"The destroyer HMS Campbeltown has exploded! There are reports of serious damage to the Normandie Dock gates!"
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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BayonneA.pzbrf
I echo Chris10's remarks, but like to correct an additional grammatical error:

"We'll been supplying you with some extra material shortly, I'm sure you'll be able to put them to good use!"

not "been", but "be":

"We'll be supplying you with some extra material shortly, I'm sure you'll be able to put it to good use!"

And, as a bonus nit-pick, technically it's not "material", but "materiel", see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materiel. I didn't correct it as not many people will notice and in fact might think that it is a spelling error or something (been there).

BayonneB_decisive.pzbrf
"You are proving to be quite resourceful at making the most of the second line equipment we've been forced to supply you with."

I'm not sure about "second line". In St. Nazaire's briefing it's called "second hand", but I prefer "second-rate" or "second class", that covers all bases.

"You are proving to be quite resourceful at making the most of the second-rate equipment we've been forced to supply you with."

BayonneC_marginal.pzbrf
"you were at least able to drive off the attack before more the situation could become more serious. I know that you are struggling with the second line equipment we've been forced to supply you with,"

same thing, plus the first "more" shouldn't be there.

"you were at least able to drive off the attack before the situation could become more serious. I know that you are struggling with the second-rate equipment we've been forced to supply you with,"

Scenario message 1:
"Our trains are already under attack by Allied Saboteurs! Break through enemy lines before the trains are destroyed!"

No errors, but nit-picking:"Allied Saboteurs", the actual units in the game are called British Saboteurs, or call them Allied saboteurs (no capital), it doesn't matter to me, in fact I would just leave it like it is, but I thought I'd point it out.
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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HardelotA.pzbrf

"Several of our offshore E-boat patrols have reported"

Tricky one, E-boat is the British nickname for small axis combat vessels, the German name was Schnellboot (fast boat) or S-boot (like they used U-boot for submarine). So, to remain neutral:

"Several of our offshore patrol boats have reported"


HardelotB_decisive.pzbrf and HardelotC_marginal.pzbrf

"Historically, Operation Abercrombie was nearly unopposed and accomplished little, but contributed to the planning of future Allied operations ."

little typo, the last period has a space in front of it:

"Historically, Operation Abercrombie was nearly unopposed and accomplished little, but contributed to the planning of future Allied operations."
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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BayonneA.pzbrf
April 5th, 1942
Welcome to Southern France, Herr General. The country is truly lovely this time of year, is it not? Unfortunately for you, there is work to be done so any leisure activities will have to wait!
We've been receiving somewhat conflicting reports of a possible Allied raid aimed at disrupting transportation routes connecting France and Spain. While this may seem an odd tactic as Spain is officially neutral in this war, the Allies must have discovered our secret trade agreement to acquire tungsten ore from Spanish mines. This flow of war material must not be interrupted!
Your objective is to investigate the area around Bayonne and escort any AUXILIARY trains in the region to Train Safety Hexes in the Northeast.
We'll been supplying you with some extra material shortly, I'm sure you'll be able to put them to good use!

to

Welcome to Southern France, Herr General. The country is truly lovely this time of the year, is it not? Unfortunately for you, there is work to be done, so any leisure activities will have to wait!
We've been receiving somewhat conflicting reports of a possible Allied raid aimed at disrupting transportation routes connecting France and Spain. While this may seem an odd tactic as Spain is officially neutral in this war, the Allies must have discovered our secret trade agreement to acquire tungsten ore from Spanish mines. This flow of war material must not be interrupted!
Your objective is to investigate the area around Bayonne and escort any AUXILIARY trains in the region to Train Safety Hexes in the Northeast.
We'll been supplying you with some extra materiel shortly, I'm sure you'll be able to put them to good use!

(This time its the rare military materiel from a French word for equipment than just material with a)
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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BayonneB_decisive.pzbrf
Congratulations, Herr General. Once again the cowardly raiders have been repulsed with negligible damage inflicted on our rail facilities. You are proving to be quite resourceful at making the most of the second line equipment we've been forced to supply you with. Keep it up, and I'll see if I can't requisition some better material for your men!
Historically, Operation Myrmidon was aborted before any Allied troops had come ashore, with no casualties on either side.

to
Congratulations, Herr General. Once again the cowardly raiders have been repulsed with negligible damage inflicted on our rail facilities. You are proving to be quite resourceful at making the most of the second line equipment we've been forced to supply you with. Keep it up, and I'll see if I can't requisition some better materiel for your men!
Historically, Operation Myrmidon was aborted before any Allied troops had come ashore, with no casualties on either side.

(materiel again)

BayonneC_marginal.pzbrf
A fair performance, Herr General. Although there has been some damage inflicted on our rail facilities, you were at least able to drive off the attack before more the situation could become more serious. I know that you are struggling with the second line equipment we've been forced to supply you with, but if you strive to improve your performance, I'll see if I can't requisition some better material for your men!
Historically, Operation Myrmidon was aborted before any Allied troops had come ashore, with no casualties on either side.

again -> rather "materiel"

BayonneD_loss.pzbrf
It seems that the Allied commandos got the best of you this time! Fear not though, the damage they inflicted is hardly devastating, and I'm certain there will be more opportunities in the future for you to seek your revenge against them!

OK
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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CatanzaroA.pzbrf
September 1st, 1943
The unthinkable has come to pass, Herr General! Our Italian allies have been in secret negotiating with the British and American forces, with the clear intent to surrender their armed forces. Cowards! From this point onward, you must consider any Italian units you encounter to be hostile enemies. I have been informed that any Italian units that are part of your core have sworn their allegiance to our continued fight, but if I were you, Herr General, I'd keep them under close watch.
Your objective is to secure all Victory Hexes.
As it has become clear that the Italians have lost the stomach to fight, it falls upon you to... replace their positions, and thwart any British attack that may be coming up from the 'toe' of Italy. You have your orders, Herr General. Carry them out.

to:
negotiating -> negotiations
hostile enemies -> dunno, is that not like friendly friends, how about just hostiles or enemies?

CatanzaroB_decisive.pzbrf
While it is unfortunate that circumstances have demanded we forcibly disarm our former Italian allies, you conducted the operation honorably and skillfully. It is clear that our work here is not yet complete though, as we must now secure the remnants of the once mighty Italian fleet. To Taranto, Herr General!

OK

CatanzaroC_marginal.pzbrf
While it is unfortunate that circumstances have demanded we forcibly disarm our former Italian allies, you conducted the operation well enough. It is clear that our work here is not yet complete though, as we must now secure the remnants of the once mighty Italian fleet. To Taranto, Herr General!

OK - same text, after all. :)

CatanzaroD_loss.pzbrf
Although your forces suffered a serious setback in this battle, our situation is not completely hopeless just yet. I'm ordering your forces to fall back to our next defensive line and re-organize themselves there. Whatever resources we can spare will be sent to rebuild your units, but be warned that continued failure may result in an unrecoverable defeat!

OK
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Re: Text Errors DLC 42/43 West

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DieppeA.pzbrf
August 19th, 1942
I hope you and your men enjoyed your vacation, Herr General, because the Allies are back and they are striking in force!
A significant armada of transport ships, escorted by the Royal Navy and protected by an umbrella of Royal Air Force aircraft has already begun its assault on the port city of Dieppe. It is clear that this is no ordinary raid, but a serious operation!
Your objective is to repel the invasion of Dieppe by securing all Victory Hex objectives.
We're sending you reinforcements to help deal with this sizeable raid. One group should be arriving immediately from the West, with another on its way shortly after from the East. As always, I'm certain you'll make the best use of these assets.

OK

DieppeB_decisive.pzbrf
This is a significant victory, Herr General! The first major attack by Allied forces against continental Europe has ended in a complete rout of their forces! Aside from the wealth of prisoners and equipment that has fallen into our hands, this event will surely be a major boost to the morale of the German people and a serious blow to enemy morale. Well done!
Historically, Operation Jubilee was a disaster for the British and Canadian forces who took part. Not only were their objectives not met, but almost 75% of all personnel and equipment were lost in the operation.

OK

DieppeC_marginal.pzbrf
Well done on a strong victory, Herr General. The first major attack by Allied forces against continental Europe has ended in a rout of their forces. Aside from the wealth of prisoners that has fallen into our hands, this event will surely be a major boost to the morale of the German people and a serious blow to enemy morale.
Historically, Operation Jubilee was a disaster for the British and Canadian forces who took part. Not only were their objectives not met, but almost 75% of all personnel and equipment were lost in the operation.

-> I am not sure, never heard the phrase "well done on a strong victory", sounds odd!
How about "Well done, congratulations to your victory, Herr General!"

DieppeD_loss.pzbrf
It seems that the Allied commandos got the best of you this time! Fear not though, the damage they inflicted is hardly devastating, and I'm certain there will be more opportunities in the future for you to seek your revenge against them!

OK
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