AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

Post by uran21 »

Hi kverdon,

You probably did not destroy 3 Supply Dumps and this is why you get Marginal Victory. There are only 3 not 4 Supply Dumps in the scenario and they are located somewhere near frontier wire which is marked with special tile and custom string. If you hover mouse over Supply Dump it should say "Supply Dump" as well. When message calls for destruction of the same game should center hex to the right of the Assembly Area showing direction where to search for them. Frontier wire should be shown on the screen when centring of the map happens.
On the diametrically opposite side of this location very very far away there are some other new units with different look and different naming. If you destroy those (there are 4 of those) you will get some reinforcements for your core.
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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

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Forgot to say this, all units that need to be destroyed for victory have different border around their strength plate. This should be in all scenarios where destroying enemy units is condition for victory, not only here.
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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

Post by KdF »

Here I thought that after destroying the Depots and ending the turn while holding the objective cities, the mission would be over.

Imagine my surprise when it was not.
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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

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Did you guys ever get the following message:

Assemble at least four units for the task at the marked assembly area. There is no time to waste!

Mission objectives have changed!
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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

Post by robman »

What are the hangars, exactly? Do they serve any purpose to the other side? Can planes refuel or reinforce at them?
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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

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robman wrote:What are the hangars, exactly? Do they serve any purpose to the other side? Can planes refuel or reinforce at them?
They are just stationary units in class of structure. You can represent them as some sort of destructible building.
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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

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uran21 wrote:Did you guys ever get the following message:

Assemble at least four units for the task at the marked assembly area. There is no time to waste!

Mission objectives have changed!
I think I did get this one the first time I played, when I misinterpreted the initial orders to mean that I should defeat the advance on Sidi Rezegh,first and THEN dash for the wire. Of course, it only works in the reverse order--dash immediately, worry about Sidi Rezegh later. When "mission objectives" changed, I looked around to see if there were any changes to the objective hexes, but I didn't see any. I never saw ANY depots or hangars that time, I barely managed to withdraw without the loss of all of my raiding party.

My $0.02: I agree that (a) this scenario is great fun and essentially very well designed, but (b) the initial instructions and messages are unnecessarily confusing. By "unnecessarily" I mean to say that a good deal of confusion IS necessary--it was fun not knowing exactly where to look, or even what I was looking for--but I don't think that this requires confusion about what the staging area is for, or how many units have to be there before advancing, or the fact that the dash has to start right away. Even so, the second time around, this was my favorite scenario yet.
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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

Post by uran21 »

If you don't assemble the force do you get the message saying mission has expired?
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AK - Dash to the Wire - 4 hangers gone for one reward. Spoil

Post by captainjack »

Dash to the Wire is driving me mad (mostly for all the right reasons).

Today I destroyed all four hangars in the lower left corner but only got one reward (the Stug 3).
There were still at least 6 turns remaining, possibly eight or more, so it probably wasn't timed out.

They didn't appear in my army list in the next scenario.

There was a sandstorm in at least one of the following two turns, so maybe I was unlucky and my tank driver and fighter pilot got lost.
Or maybe they are still drinking one last ice cold beer in Alexandria...

Has anyone else destroyed the hangars and missed out on rewards?
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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

Post by stecal »

i never knew what the hangars gave you - nothing I noticed.
Clear the battlefield and let me see
All the profit from our victory.
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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

Post by johndoe2 »

As all bonuses this is very vague as well - but I think it is essential to destroy the hangars as early as possible to get the FULL COMPLEMENT of reward units. Use the 4 mobile Italian units to do this, while the rest of the army does the other
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Re: AK - Dash to the Wire - what am I fighting for? spoilers

Post by captainjack »

johndoe2 is probably right. I'll just have one more go ... (and another, and another...)
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