obstructions

ravenflight · Post by **ravenflight** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:30 am

Hi All,

A terrain type "Obstacle" states that it is otherwise treated as a FF. FF's have a front and a back. Does an "Obstacle"? That would mean an enemy can very very rarely make use of an "Obstacle"

kevinj · Post by **kevinj** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:19 pm

No, the first BG to arrive at an Obstacle from either side can defend it (if an appropriate type of course).

ravenflight · Post by **ravenflight** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:53 pm

kevinj wrote:No, the first BG to arrive at an Obstacle from either side can defend it (if an appropriate type of course).

Rules reference please?

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:39 pm

ravenflight wrote:
kevinj wrote:No, the first BG to arrive at an Obstacle from either side can defend it (if an appropriate type of course).
Rules reference please?

Sorry, that one is down to common sense. Most such obstacles were hedgerows, sunken lanes, drainage ditches etc., hence fairly symmetrical.

(Sorry if common sense doesn't suffice for you or your opponents.)

(But not very sorry).

ravenflight · Post by **ravenflight** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:19 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
ravenflight wrote:
kevinj wrote:No, the first BG to arrive at an Obstacle from either side can defend it (if an appropriate type of course).
Rules reference please?
Sorry, that one is down to common sense. Most such obstacles were hedgerows, sunken lanes, drainage ditches etc., hence fairly symmetrical.

(Sorry if common sense doesn't suffice for you or your opponents.)

(But not very sorry).

Well, the rules wording states that it ISN'T the case. You can't argue common sense in a game where someone says 'here's the rules'.

list_lurker · Post by **list_lurker** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:53 pm

Just make sure you model your hedges like beeches brook

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:32 pm

Ravenflight - even Hammy was able to use his common sense on that one...

madaxeman · Post by **madaxeman** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:59 pm

ravenflight wrote:
kevinj wrote:No, the first BG to arrive at an Obstacle from either side can defend it (if an appropriate type of course).
Rules reference please?

It's on the same page as where it says that terrain pieces either "belong" to one player or the other

ravenflight · Post by **ravenflight** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:58 pm

Well, I guess my point is more 'what's the difference with field fortifications?'

I mean, I've seen reconstructions of the FF's at Nagashino. It seems to me 'common sense' that if the FF at Nagishino wasn't defended that an enemy would be able to use it just as easily from the other side, but that is expressly denied in the rules.

Anyway, I'll use my 'common sense' and hope that I don't come across any rules lawyers.

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