Compatibility with Warmaster basing?

hussar1m · Post by **hussar1m** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:36 pm

I have a couple of Warmaster armies in the planning stages, and was wondering if FoG would be compatible as far as basing. Warmaster mounts everything on 40mm x 20mm bases (including cavalry). Will this work for FoG? I was not going to do any of the funky Warmaster pike or cavalry mounted the narrow way. Also, I was planning on mounting my generals on rounds to make them more easiliy identifiable. Will this cause any problems?

Thanks for any advise in advance.

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:40 pm

FoG uses standard frontages of 40mm for 15mm and smaller figures and 60mm for 25mm figures. With none of the warmaster sideways bases you will be fine to play FoG although some FoG troop types have different base depths they have little effect on the play of the game.

hussar1m · Post by **hussar1m** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:24 pm

Thanks for the quick response. What about basing for leaders? Will rounds work (leader as marker) or do they need to be based as one of the unit types ala dbx?

carlos · Post by **carlos** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:36 pm

Leaders are based as one of the unit types depending on the army, i.e. Cataphract (40 x 30) for Parthians, Archers (40 x 20) for Nubians and so on. In a pinch you could fasten the round base of your leader to a rectangular base using blu-tac or a magnet.

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:42 pm

I am fairly sure that leaders are limited to a 40mm by 40mm maximum size base rather than being a specifit troop type base. I can't see any reason why round leaders wouldn't work for FoG. It might get odd looks from DBM players who have still got their armies entirely on DBM bases.

I have just checked the actuall words and what they say is that for 15 mm base widths are 40mm and depths vary. The depth for commanders is 40mm or less. There is a note to say that commanders will normally be depicted as one of their troop types as specified in the army list books but that it is acceptable to use a slightly different number of figures to make the commander distinguishable.

I for one would have no issues playing with my DBM based figures against WMA based troops with generals on round bases.

carlos · Post by **carlos** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:49 pm

Since a bigger general base is marginally more useful, you can bet there will be a lot of 40 by 40 general bases out there!

jlopez · Post by **jlopez** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:08 pm

carlos wrote:Since a bigger general base is marginally more useful, you can bet there will be a lot of 40 by 40 general bases out there!

It's only useful to units behind the general and these rarely have to take a test anyway. I have yet to come across examples of generals on a 40mm x 40mm base providing more benefit than those based as if they were a particular troop type.

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:08 pm

carlos wrote:Since a bigger general base is marginally more useful, you can bet there will be a lot of 40 by 40 general bases out there!

I expect that as people play more games of FoG we will see generals as mini dioramas on 40 by 40 bases, nice disruption, fragmentation and broken markers and a few other goodies.

Personally I still intend to make some better terrain as all my existing stuff is really aimed at DBM where the exact location of every base matters a lot.

carlos · Post by **carlos** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:56 pm

I also intend to make special general stands for FoG in 40 by 40, although as jlopez said the difference is minimal. Is anyone thinking about making them with 25mm figures (for 15mm) to make them stand out and add more character?

madaxeman · Post by **madaxeman** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:55 pm

..however you will find your Warmaster Ancients army is rather hamstrung if you don't go for the narrow basing for the Shock Cavalry. The WmA "compensatory" rules for shock troops on wide bases are nowhere near as good as having them actually based on narrow frontage ones!

tim
www.madaxeman.com
(which has reports of both FoG & WMA competition games on it )