Skirmish rules

[Scrumpy]

Where in the rule book does it give the pros & cons of using Light Infantry in skirmish formation ?

[gibby]

I don't think there is a specific page that captures all the information for this in 1 page.

Just from my experience.
Good medium range shooting when no enemy cav around
Better movement in terrain over other infantry,
Don't drop cohesion firing from bad terrain whilst in skirmish order

Not so good Shooting at close range,
Pinned in the wrong formation and forced to evade.
Limited charge capability in skirmish formation.

cheers
Jim

[Blathergut]

p. 30 (top): infantry skirmishers may evade as a reaction move
p. 31: D6 + 2

Movement Table: skirmishers move 6MU in rough
p.37: may move up to 1/2 in any direction

-can be moved through by any (including charges)

p. 50: if have arty attachment, it doesn't fire if in skirmish order
p. 51: wavering non-skirmishers cannot fire from rough
p. 51: artillery may ignore skirmishers
p. 52: artillery may fire through skirmishers (a couple conditions)[and by the same, skirmishers can block fire to others]
p. 53: - POA in skirmish order as a target and - POA if firing in skirmish at close range

p. 56: less dice if in combat
p. 57: skirmishers cannot provide rear support
p. 58: -POA in combat

p. 70: friends don't test for seeing skirmishers break/pass within 4MU

[Scrumpy]

As ever thank you. Thinking of having some Grenzers in an 1809 Austrian army, the figures are available etc.

[Blathergut]

Boo! Hisssssss!!!

[Scrumpy]

Sick of losing to Dead's Austrians ???

[Blathergut]

Unfortunately!

But we have revised and think we will stomp Austrian derriere next time around. I must maximize those things the French have et les Austriennes n'est pas have!

[Scrumpy]

Fancy chefs ???

Would Dead care to share his list at all ? Does he use the Hungarians as Superior or Average ?

[deadtorius]

Last time out I used the 1809 list with a division of attached grenadiers from the reserve list. Not checking the back pages of the list book I accidentally was 1 infantry unit short in my mixed division. Didn't realize they had to have 2 units and I only had a unit of jagers with 2 cav, Superior Hussars (small) with officer and artillery attached, quite nice, and Uhlans (first time trying them) didn't go as well for them. Found out the hard way that lances don't get bonus versus cav, only infantry... live and learn. New list next time but for now it must remain under tight security as Frenchois spies are attempting to outclever us clever Austrians.

Corps commander Skilled

1st Division comptetent
German infantry Large average drilled with med artillery.
German infantry large average drilled
Hungarian infantry large superior drilled officer and rifle skirmishers
heavy foot artillery small average drilled

2nd division skilled
Jaegers with rifles small average drilled cavalry attached
Uhlans (lancers) small average drilled
Hussars small superior drilled officer and med artillery attached

3rd divison skilled
German Grenadiers large average veteran officer
German Grenadiers large average veteran medium artillery
Hungarian Grenadiers small superior veteran
medium foot artillery small average

4th division skilled
German infantry large average officer and rifle skirmishers
German infantry large average medium artillery
German infantry small average
Medium foot artillery large average

1000 points right on the button

That's what sent the Francois types running last weekend.

[deadtorius]

One other thing if you are skirmishing and want to form square, you have to move back into tactical and then you can attempt to form square, so could take 2 turns depending on how far out the enemy cav is. However I do believe they can defend a building or even occupying it is simple for them. Same with trying to leave a building. If I ever try out Grenzers (one of these days) I might try tossing them into a building, they won't have to evade if they are defending

[Scrumpy]

Reading the notes for that Danube 1809 list it says no Cavalry divisons, yet Cavalry divison may only contain Dragoons, Lt Cav & Hse arty....

So I assume that means a single Cavalry Division can be formed?

[Blathergut]

Right...one cav div...from the reserve list. He went with the grenadiers which meant he was a bit short on cavalry last time.

[terrys]

Reading the notes for that Danube 1809 list it says no Cavalry divisons, yet Cavalry divison may only contain Dragoons, Lt Cav & Hse arty....

There's a slight problem with the indenting of the bullets for this list.
The 3 bullets below "The army may include a single division....." should be indented and only refer to the division chosen from the Reserve Corps.