Experience Limit in DLC Campaign ?!

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Desertf0x
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Experience Limit in DLC Campaign ?!

Post by Desertf0x »

Hey guys, I'm really not certain where to put this, but I've got a quick question regarding the DLC Campaign ( GC 39, 40, 41 etc )

I've started to play the GC 39, and have now reached 41 .. the whole time, all my units stopped gaining experience points, I think 375 is the limit, and they are all stuck with 3 stars.

In the beginning I thought that is just a limit in the initial maps, but now I'm past Kiev in Russia, and they still do not get their fourth star.

What did I overlook ?
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Re: Experience Limit in DLC Campaign ?!

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To stop your units getting 4 or 5 stars by the end of the French campaign each DLC has an experience cap slightly higher than the last, your units won't get any higher until they start fighting in the next campaign. I'm not sure if the cap can be changed but the rate at which units gain stars can be in DLC gamerules file.
I drastically slowed my rate because i kept banging into the cap or exp ceiling during the Polish campaign
Desertf0x
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Re: Experience Limit in DLC Campaign ?!

Post by Desertf0x »

Interesting, thank you for the reply.

I was wonndering whether it might be a bug or something related to the difficulty settings.

Now where would I find that omnious game-rules file ?
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Post by soldier »

There is a gamesrules file in the data folder of each individual DLC folder, it can be opened with microsoft excel. Lots of stuff can be changed in there but be careful what you mess with or you may get some strange results. I don't think the cap can be altered though. And changes in that file won't impact games that are already saved or the next DLC campaign you play.
Desertf0x
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Re: Experience Limit in DLC Campaign ?!

Post by Desertf0x »

Cheers mate.

I've just finished with GC 41 and am hopping to GC 42.

I think I'll leave the file as it is for now, hoping I can reach at least 400 Exp points in GC 42, it's becoming incresingly difficult to swiftly advance against T34 and KV1 when the best I can offer are Pz III J/1 and the good ole 8/8.
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Re: Experience Limit in DLC Campaign ?!

Post by Kerensky »

This thread has some information:
viewtopic.php?f=121&t=29134

Once you hit DLC42, yes the cap is raised to 425 experience so you can get 4 star units. In DLC43 onward, the cap is effectively removed and you will be able to get 5 star units.
It's mostly a mechanism to make sure the player does not outpace their enemy's experience too quickly. If you have 5 star units before you leave Poland well... that causes all manner of balance and progression issues. :)
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Post by Kamerer »

There's a valuable strategy (I find) to take advantage of this. WELL before units reach their cap, I rotate other ones into the order of battle and let them sit aside certain scenarios. That way you go into future, larger scenarios/campaigns with some 200+ units ready instead of having to nurse of green ones. This is particularly valuable with aircraft and infantry.
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Kamerer wrote:There's a valuable strategy (I find) to take advantage of this. WELL before units reach their cap, I rotate other ones into the order of battle and let them sit aside certain scenarios. That way you go into future, larger scenarios/campaigns with some 200+ units ready instead of having to nurse of green ones. This is particularly valuable with aircraft and infantry.
The problem with this is that heroes are given out based on the number of kills you have so if you dillute your CORE too much you end up with a lot less heroes. Not sure what you need 200 units for considering you can never field more than 50 or so.
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Post by Kamerer »

True, but no one said anything about 200 units. The point is to perhaps rotate 8 infantry, say, through early campaigns, then continue to campaign the four or five that get an outstanding 1st hero - d+3, a+3, for example. This has worked exceptionally well for me. And the same applies to armor units.
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Kamerer wrote:True, but no one said anything about 200 units. The point is to perhaps rotate 8 infantry, say, through early campaigns, then continue to campaign the four or five that get an outstanding 1st hero - d+3, a+3, for example. This has worked exceptionally well for me. And the same applies to armor units.
Not to be rude but you clearly state in your previous post 200+ units.
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Re: Experience Limit in DLC Campaign ?!

Post by Kamerer »

That referred to experience level (over 200, e.g., "200+"). Sorry for the confusion.
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Kamerer wrote:That referred to experience level (over 200, e.g., "200+"). Sorry for the confusion.
Ahhh that makes more sense! I never did it with infantry but I usually have some extra units. Especially tanks, artillery, and fighters.
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Re: Experience Limit in DLC Campaign ?!

Post by Kamerer »

Yes, it works well. In the early campaigns I rotate a number of units through to get their first bonus. In 44/45 etc., you usually only need max four or five infantry, so having those a3,d3, or d3,in3, etc is such a boost.

I do similar with my capture armor, even the later Russian ones (KVs) when it's plentiful. Campaign them until the first bonus to see if it's a real "keeper." Last round, I was able to get quite a few movement bonuses - which I kept campaigning so as to turn into Tiger II's. Very helpful.
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