SOA Games DAy Farnborough Sept 23rd
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SOA Games DAy Farnborough Sept 23rd
Terry and I are now confirmed to go along to the SOA games day and put on a hustorical FOG game. We are looking for a few volunteers to assist and likely would need to get some people together with additional figure as well. 3 a side would make for a really good game. 15mm.
We have decided to do the battle of Manizkert 1071 AD and need 4 volunteers to come along and play the game with us. 20 vs 21 BGs an around 1700 points a side. Should make for a great game. Played on an 8x 4ft table.
So whose free to come along? We may also need to borrow some figures although Terry and I reckon we can do a lot of them.
Si
We have decided to do the battle of Manizkert 1071 AD and need 4 volunteers to come along and play the game with us. 20 vs 21 BGs an around 1700 points a side. Should make for a great game. Played on an 8x 4ft table.
So whose free to come along? We may also need to borrow some figures although Terry and I reckon we can do a lot of them.
Si
Proposed Byzantine force for Manzikert
Generals Type bases Type
Romanus FC 1 Cv
Bryennius FC 1 Cv
Theodore Alyates FC 1 Cv
Andronikos Doukas TC 1 Cv
De Bailleul TC 1 Cv
Order of Batte Type bases Type Quality Training Armour Shooting Impact Melee
1 Frankish knights 4 Kn Sup UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
2 Varangian Guards 6 HF Elites Dr Arm Off Sp Sp
3 Varangian Guards 6 HF Elites Dr Arm Off Sp Sp
4 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
5 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
6 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
7 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
8 Archers 8 LF Ave Dr UnPr Bw
9 Archers 8 LF Ave Dr UnPr Bw
10 Cavalry 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw* Lnc Sw
11 Cavalry 6 Cv Ave Dr Arm Lnc Sw
12 Cavalry 6 Cv Ave Dr Arm Lnc Sw
13 Cavalry 6 Cv Ave Dr Arm Lnc Sw
14 Pecheneg 6 LF Ave UnDr UnPrt Bw Sw
15 Pecheneg 6 LF Ave UnDr UnPrt Bw Sw
16 Pecheneg 6 LF Ave UnDr UnPrt Bw Sw
17 Bulgarian Cavalry 6 Cv Ave UnDr Prot Bw Sw
18 Armenain 6 Cv Sup UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
19 Armenian Foot 8 MF Ave UnDr Prot Lt Sp
20 Armenian Archers 8 MF Ave UnDr Unprot Bw
Fortified Camp 6
20 BG Total 140
Generals Type bases Type
Romanus FC 1 Cv
Bryennius FC 1 Cv
Theodore Alyates FC 1 Cv
Andronikos Doukas TC 1 Cv
De Bailleul TC 1 Cv
Order of Batte Type bases Type Quality Training Armour Shooting Impact Melee
1 Frankish knights 4 Kn Sup UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
2 Varangian Guards 6 HF Elites Dr Arm Off Sp Sp
3 Varangian Guards 6 HF Elites Dr Arm Off Sp Sp
4 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
5 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
6 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
7 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
8 Archers 8 LF Ave Dr UnPr Bw
9 Archers 8 LF Ave Dr UnPr Bw
10 Cavalry 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw* Lnc Sw
11 Cavalry 6 Cv Ave Dr Arm Lnc Sw
12 Cavalry 6 Cv Ave Dr Arm Lnc Sw
13 Cavalry 6 Cv Ave Dr Arm Lnc Sw
14 Pecheneg 6 LF Ave UnDr UnPrt Bw Sw
15 Pecheneg 6 LF Ave UnDr UnPrt Bw Sw
16 Pecheneg 6 LF Ave UnDr UnPrt Bw Sw
17 Bulgarian Cavalry 6 Cv Ave UnDr Prot Bw Sw
18 Armenain 6 Cv Sup UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
19 Armenian Foot 8 MF Ave UnDr Prot Lt Sp
20 Armenian Archers 8 MF Ave UnDr Unprot Bw
Fortified Camp 6
20 BG Total 140
Proposed Seljuk Turks for Manzikert
Generals Type bases Type
Alp Arslan IC 1 Cv
G2 TC 1 Cv
G3 TC 1 Cv
G3 TC 1 Cv
G4 TC 1 Cv
Order of Batte Type bases Type Quality Training Armour Shooting Impact Melee
1 Nobles 6 Cv Sup Undr Arm Bw Sw
2 Nobles 6 Cv Sup Undr Arm Bw Sw
3 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
4 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
5 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
6 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
7 Kurds 6 Cv Ave UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
8 Kurds 6 Cv Ave UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
9 Kurds 6 Cv Ave UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
10 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
11 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
12 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
13 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
14 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
15 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
16 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
17 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
18 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
19 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
20 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
21 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
Camp 6
21 BG Total 140
Si
Generals Type bases Type
Alp Arslan IC 1 Cv
G2 TC 1 Cv
G3 TC 1 Cv
G3 TC 1 Cv
G4 TC 1 Cv
Order of Batte Type bases Type Quality Training Armour Shooting Impact Melee
1 Nobles 6 Cv Sup Undr Arm Bw Sw
2 Nobles 6 Cv Sup Undr Arm Bw Sw
3 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
4 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
5 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
6 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
7 Kurds 6 Cv Ave UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
8 Kurds 6 Cv Ave UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
9 Kurds 6 Cv Ave UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
10 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
11 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
12 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
13 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
14 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
15 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
16 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
17 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
18 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
19 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
20 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
21 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
Camp 6
21 BG Total 140
Si
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MANIKERT a the SOA GAMES DAY - copy of mail to players for anyone else who would like to attend.
Alas due to some e-mail problem Richard of the SOA hadn't received any of my e-mails over the last few weeks. I managed to talk to him yesterday.
The event is from 10-4pm at the Farnborough club
The Address is
Elles Hall
Off Meudon Avenue
Farnborough
GU14 7LE
Locaiton map link below
Location
Drinks will be on site - tea coffee etc.
There is parking at the club but even on a Sunday it is charged for so less cars for more people a plus - although not a lot ( a few 3sfor the day I think).
They have lots of tables so and 8x 4 or larger is easy for us to put up. It will be open for 8am and we will aim to get there for 9am.
Asda is 300 yds away for sback lunch and I am sure there is a pub or two if we go for and official lunch break.
I am leaving from here at 8am. Anywone in the area is happy to join up with me and go in 1 vehicle.
Please bring any figures that fit with the attached armies and if anyone has two good matching lothes that would be great.
Should be fun
Si
Alas due to some e-mail problem Richard of the SOA hadn't received any of my e-mails over the last few weeks. I managed to talk to him yesterday.
The event is from 10-4pm at the Farnborough club
The Address is
Elles Hall
Off Meudon Avenue
Farnborough
GU14 7LE
Locaiton map link below
Location
Drinks will be on site - tea coffee etc.
There is parking at the club but even on a Sunday it is charged for so less cars for more people a plus - although not a lot ( a few 3sfor the day I think).
They have lots of tables so and 8x 4 or larger is easy for us to put up. It will be open for 8am and we will aim to get there for 9am.
Asda is 300 yds away for sback lunch and I am sure there is a pub or two if we go for and official lunch break.
I am leaving from here at 8am. Anywone in the area is happy to join up with me and go in 1 vehicle.
Please bring any figures that fit with the attached armies and if anyone has two good matching lothes that would be great.
Should be fun
Si
Well I thought it was a lot of fun! Somehow the Turks snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, must have been all those Greek cheques in the post.....
Highlight (for me) was one unit of Ghulums that decided today was not the day to loose. They rode over and through a BG of Bulgar Cv then through one of Terry's Skutatoi units he'd brought up from reserve, killing Dukas Andronicus for good measure. I thought their number was up when Terry trapped them between a 2nd Skut BG, some LF and David F's Lh. My Ghulums simply rode over the Skut! They then turned, disrupted the LF with shooting and then rode down a BG of MF bow! (This last was after the Turk army had collapsed, but we played it out anyway to see if these guys would die
)
The main problem for the Turks in this battle was too much LH. their shooting was generally ineffective and they got in the way of "proper" Cv. The Byzantine Cv was generally heavier and there was a lot of natural prey (Turk LH) for them.
Still, good fun to see so many trops on table.
Highlight (for me) was one unit of Ghulums that decided today was not the day to loose. They rode over and through a BG of Bulgar Cv then through one of Terry's Skutatoi units he'd brought up from reserve, killing Dukas Andronicus for good measure. I thought their number was up when Terry trapped them between a 2nd Skut BG, some LF and David F's Lh. My Ghulums simply rode over the Skut! They then turned, disrupted the LF with shooting and then rode down a BG of MF bow! (This last was after the Turk army had collapsed, but we played it out anyway to see if these guys would die
The main problem for the Turks in this battle was too much LH. their shooting was generally ineffective and they got in the way of "proper" Cv. The Byzantine Cv was generally heavier and there was a lot of natural prey (Turk LH) for them.
Still, good fun to see so many trops on table.


