To Tame a Land Redux!

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phlewis
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

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Aristides,

I tried the password you provided on all four of the challenges you have up and it didn't work for any of them.

Pw provided was: aristides
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

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While we are waiting for the final results for Spring, I'll give you some advance warning for Summer. You will be choosing two opponents to fight, and may optionally use a 'foreign mercenary army' for one of the battles - these armies will be from SAS. You must declare in your challenge if you are using foreign mercenaries, but you are not required to say which list. FM armies may not have ICs. Just to reiterate, use of an SAS list for one of your challenges is entirely optional.
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

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keyth wrote:While we are waiting for the final results for Spring, I'll give you some advance warning for Summer. You will be choosing two opponents to fight, and may optionally use a 'foreign mercenary army' for one of the battles - these armies will be from SAS. You must declare in your challenge if you are using foreign mercenaries, but you are not required to say which list. FM armies may not have ICs. Just to reiterate, use of an SAS list for one of your challenges is entirely optional.
Nice touch. :mrgreen:
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

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keyth wrote:While we are waiting for the final results for Spring, I'll give you some advance warning for Summer. You will be choosing two opponents to fight, and may optionally use a 'foreign mercenary army' for one of the battles - these armies will be from SAS. You must declare in your challenge if you are using foreign mercenaries, but you are not required to say which list. FM armies may not have ICs. Just to reiterate, use of an SAS list for one of your challenges is entirely optional.
It seems there should be some cost for using a mercenary army however. Perhaps the size of the army should be slightly smaller than normal, e.g. 450 instead of 500 points, or possibly there should be a modifier in the results formula for using foreign mercenaries to reflect the overhead of subsidizing the mercenaries, e.g. maybe use a 200 point base instead of 250 points for the first term in the formula. (50 points may be too much or too little in either case as a modifier but ther should be some cost incurred compared to using a native army.)

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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

Post by Tiavals »

Excellent. I do need points, and the easiest way to do so is a surprise attack with an army the enemy doesn't know I have. It will be a glorious victory. But who shall be my target?
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

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Tiavals wrote:Excellent. I do need points, and the easiest way to do so is a surprise attack with an army the enemy doesn't know I have. It will be a glorious victory. But who shall be my target?
Maybe you should stay home and slaughter your own mercenaries, thus saving yourself the journey! :mrgreen:
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

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batesmotel wrote: It seems there should be some cost for using a mercenary army however. Perhaps the size of the army should be slightly smaller than normal, e.g. 450 instead of 500 points, or possibly there should be a modifier in the results formula for using foreign mercenaries to reflect the overhead of subsidizing the mercenaries, e.g. maybe use a 200 point base instead of 250 points for the first term in the formula. (50 points may be too much or too little in either case as a modifier but ther should be some cost incurred compared to using a native army.)

Chris
This is a valid point that Chris raises and I did give it some thought, but have erred on the side of simplicity! :)

The prime reason for this departure from the norm is to inject a bit of 'difference' into a season, so don't want to do anything that actively discourages use of a mercenary army. How about a 10% renown tax? So if you win, you only score 90% of the normal base total, and if you lose, you score 110% of the base total. Camps and commanders would be scored as per usual. Or possibly a flat 'fee' for using them, effectively spending some renown?
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

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keyth wrote:
batesmotel wrote: It seems there should be some cost for using a mercenary army however. Perhaps the size of the army should be slightly smaller than normal, e.g. 450 instead of 500 points, or possibly there should be a modifier in the results formula for using foreign mercenaries to reflect the overhead of subsidizing the mercenaries, e.g. maybe use a 200 point base instead of 250 points for the first term in the formula. (50 points may be too much or too little in either case as a modifier but ther should be some cost incurred compared to using a native army.)

Chris
This is a valid point that Chris raises and I did give it some thought, but have erred on the side of simplicity! :)

The prime reason for this departure from the norm is to inject a bit of 'difference' into a season, so don't want to do anything that actively discourages use of a mercenary army. How about a 10% renown tax? So if you win, you only score 90% of the normal base total, and if you lose, you score 110% of the base total. Camps and commanders would be scored as per usual. Or possibly a flat 'fee' for using them, effectively spending some renown?
Ten % renown tax would be fairest, a flat fee would be hardest on those with the lowest renown and hence not fair. I'm all for new armies as I'm sick of seeing Dailami.

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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

Post by Aristides »

phlewis wrote:Aristides,

I tried the password you provided on all four of the challenges you have up and it didn't work for any of them.

Pw provided was: aristides
Weird, it's still there - new one up, game with only DAF - pw: tahirids
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

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I haven't gotten a turn from Aristides since Thursday. Since this has been a long season do you want to close it out and start the next campaign season?

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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

Post by Aristides »

I'm on it!
‘I go North, to the swords and the siege,
That yet for a while rivers may run clean and birds build their nests,
Ere Night comes.’
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

Post by Turk1964 »

We are waiting for you again........
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

Post by Aristides »

Turk1964 wrote:We are waiting for you again........
Fret not, impatient one, victory is in my grasp as we speak...
‘I go North, to the swords and the siege,
That yet for a while rivers may run clean and birds build their nests,
Ere Night comes.’
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

Post by Aristides »

I (Ghaz) 18/40 beat Phlewis (Dailami) 31/30

I was present on the field of battle. Phlewis was not. I didn't lose any commanders - I don't think my worthy opponent did either.

No camps were looted
‘I go North, to the swords and the siege,
That yet for a while rivers may run clean and birds build their nests,
Ere Night comes.’
phlewis
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

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Nope, I didn't lose any commanders either.
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

Post by keyth »

Sorry for the interruption in service, I was away last week. I'll be updating the spreadsheet later and we can roll on into the next season... Stay tuned!
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phlewis
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

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So, what is the status of the next campaign season?

Pat
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

Post by Tiavals »

Hope we continue soon. Would be a shame if this one dried out.
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

Post by macsen »

I look forward to continuing as well. Do you need help running it Keyth?
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Re: To Tame a Land Redux!

Post by Aristides »

Yes, we could all pitch in...
‘I go North, to the swords and the siege,
That yet for a while rivers may run clean and birds build their nests,
Ere Night comes.’
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