Squares - some tricky stuff

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BrettPT
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Squares - some tricky stuff

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Hi Terry

I wonder if you could confirm if the following is correct:

1. Squares cannot receive rear support (the supporting unit can never reach the squares rear - it doesn't have one)

2. Squares can receive flank support from any type of unit that is not wavering. (there is no requirement for you to have a flank in order to receive flank support)

3. Squares can move 1MU as a simple move, counting any face of the square as the front.

4. Infantry in tactical that are charged in the flank or rear by cavalry can form square as a reaction, and then do not count as being charged in the flank or rear (the charging cavalry did not "contact the enemy flank or rear edge") They will not therefore drop a cohesion level for being charged in the rear and will not fight n the +/- POA.

Thanks Terry
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Re: Squares - some tricky stuff

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Furthermore, can a square provide flank support to a nearby unit?
If yes, how do you define the support areas of the square?
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Re: Squares - some tricky stuff

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BrettPT wrote:Hi Terry

I wonder if you could confirm if the following is correct:

1. Squares cannot receive rear support (the supporting unit can never reach the squares rear - it doesn't have one)

Squares never get rear support

2. Squares can receive flank support from any type of unit that is not wavering. (there is no requirement for you to have a flank in order to receive flank support)
The enemy has to be within the support area of the supporting unit, so a square should be able to get flank support, see page 52 for the support area. Basically its 1 base to the side and 2 MU out front.

3. Squares can move 1MU as a simple move, counting any face of the square as the front.

Correct

4. Infantry in tactical that are charged in the flank or rear by cavalry can form square as a reaction, and then do not count as being charged in the flank or rear (the charging cavalry did not "contact the enemy flank or rear edge") They will not therefore drop a cohesion level for being charged in the rear and will not fight n the +/- POA.

IF they fail the CMT they still form square but drop a cohesion level, also if the cav started 2 MU or less charge distance, they will automatically drop another cohesion level. Let the cav start too close and you could lose 2 cohesion levels.

Thanks Terry
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Re: Squares - some tricky stuff

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pptheos wrote:Furthermore, can a square provide flank support to a nearby unit?
If yes, how do you define the support areas of the square?
I don't think that a square has a support area so I do not think it can provide flank support.
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Re: Squares - some tricky stuff

Post by terrys »

I don't think that a square has a support area so I do not think it can provide flank support.
Since a square doesn't have a flank edge it does not have a support area - so Yes, the above statement is correct.
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Re: Squares - some tricky stuff

Post by SirGarnet »

deadtorius wrote:
BrettPT wrote:IF they fail the CMT they still form square but drop a cohesion level, also if the cav started 2 MU or less charge distance, they will automatically drop another cohesion level. Let the cav start too close and you could lose 2 cohesion levels.

Thanks Terry
Could you kindly provide the page reference for that 2 MU ? I can't locate it.

EDIT: Terry pointed to the Note in the Responding to Assault Table on p69 for the entry.
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