Yep--you have to make some hard choices, and you must put out the 20-25 units that not only are your strongest, but also have the best chance of surviving. To give you an idea of the strength of some of the Russian units you are up against in DLC 44, in beta testing in of the scenarios I took one of the 13-strength 88 AA guns that you get in the scenario and took a shot with it at a 15-strength IS-2. The 88 was completely vaporized, and the IS-2 was not even scratched. Some of my 15-strength Tiger II's had to hit the IS-2's several times to kill them. If you are pulling onto the battlefield with a Panzer IV, or god forbid, a Panzer III, you might as well notify the families of the crews driving those tanks that they are already dead.McRoos wrote:Zhivago wrote:When you start playing DLC 44, and you only have 20-25 slots available per game and are dealing with hordes of Russian IS-2 tanks, the "historical core" concept goes out the window pretty fast. If you do not have a Panther or a Tiger, or Tiger II, you are going to get your butt kicked.4kEY wrote:During 43 East I had a 4-1/2 star PzIV get attacked head on in the clear by a 4 star KV-85 and take 9 casualties.I changed him into a Tiger soon after.
I agree with the historical core philosophy. Turky-shoots are only fun at Dunkirk.
Well; If I read this well, we might ass well bent over then ! LOL!!
But to be serious..... the DLC 44 allows you only 20-25 units on the board !!!
OOPS...
Do I need Tigers ?
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Re: Do I need Tigers ?
Re: Do I need Tigers ?
Well, do we really need to have it a go than ?
Point of interest:
How do these IS2's which have (or had) only been in service for a couple of months got to this level 15.
It feels like they are experienced right from scratch, which have never been the case.
There were plenty out there and they attacked like ants, but they, at least in the latest stages of 43 and the early stages of 44, were always "fresh"....
It doesn't feel accurate!
Point of interest:
How do these IS2's which have (or had) only been in service for a couple of months got to this level 15.
It feels like they are experienced right from scratch, which have never been the case.
There were plenty out there and they attacked like ants, but they, at least in the latest stages of 43 and the early stages of 44, were always "fresh"....
It doesn't feel accurate!
Re: Do I need Tigers ?
Well the first IS-2 you encounter, in Korsun Breakout, suffer from this exact trait. They're strength and experience levels are lower than all other Soviet units.McRoos wrote:Well, do we really need to have it a go than ?
Point of interest:
How do these IS2's which have (or had) only been in service for a couple of months got to this level 15.
It feels like they are experienced right from scratch, which have never been the case.
There were plenty out there and they attacked like ants, but they, at least in the latest stages of 43 and the early stages of 44, were always "fresh"....
It doesn't feel accurate!
After that though, they are reserved for the best Soviet units and often serve as command units. Not unlike how the player upgrades their elite units with the latest equipment.
This makes them much more meaningful(not to mention menacing
) and not just spammed all over the place, a problem of the Vanilla game we wanted to address.