Sample Army List

[david53]

Okey a BG is different but why can only a BG move twice and not a Division when they are both Commanded by the DC. A Division could be made up of three units a BG could be formed of 3 units and if the DC was of a certain level he could move 3 units.

[Sarmaticus]

Brigade Group is just the name the rules use for a group of units operating under a commander and moving as one. They needn't be a brigade, needn't be from the same brigade but must be from the same division. It's not a particuarly clear use of terminology.

[MikeHorah]

Perhaps it has something to do with the scope of the lists. Your Corps at scale is used to represent an army, so you get the mix of troops an army could have but the size of a Corps.

This is a key point when constrcting the lists. We have designed FOG(N) for a Corps level game and the lists are designed round that. But we have not been rigid in designing lists only around the historical orders of battle found for individual battles or only the regulations. Where a partcicular battle was the primary source we usually say so.

For the major continental combatants in many of their campaigns ( mainly French Austrian and Russian) we design an infantry corps, cavalry or reserve corps and where they had one a Guard Corps, but allow a list to import a division ( or two) from another list in many cases. So for example you can field a French Infantry corps for 1812 with a division selected from the French Cavalry Reserve Corps ( or vice versa). In doing this you construct a Corps by divisions. Theer are many permutations. The lists contain guidance on how to apply the maxima and minima in such cases and we hope we have avoided any nonsensical clashes.

In the rulebook with only 8 sample lists we could not do that.

We designed the 1812 Fench allies lists around the Corps d'armee they fielded but allow optional troops to buld a national army eg Duchy of Warsaw, Bavaria etc. But in many campaigns for many smaller nations or armies they had an army that rarely fielded a whole Corps or only a small part of their army in any battle , so you have to assume thay can do for the purpose of allowing players to do so. and in some case we make it clear if a list is pretty hypotheical and to what extent.

Overall we have aimed for flexibility variety and choice in the way the lists are put together for tournament gamers and for historical gamers but the building blocks are historically driven. In most cases there is a clearly indicated historical opponent eg all the various Franco - Austrian campaigns in Italy are matched and the various versions of the Anglo Portuguese and French in Spain can also be "paired off" for the most part with some overlaps . One or two are trickier eg the Swiss in 1815 and the Prussian- Hanoverian Corps d'Observation in 1796 which was a peacetime formation.

[ulysisgrunt]

I find it sad that with your acknowledgement of the inclusion of "hypothitical lists" ,you could not bring yourself to allow for an American War of 1812 list.
Danny Weitz

[MkV]

If you are wanting FoGN to attract any of the "Mainstream" players (especially in a tournament scene") you may want to prepare yourselves for non-historical list. One very historical fact is that gamers will min/max the heck out of lists to try and get the most killer army they can put on a table.

MkV