Hi Eric and Iain
Have sent an email and I have a private message in my outbox.
My computer is nearly 5 years old and is having problems. When I have a number of websites up and running, it can slow down to a halt and just freezes. Can not afford a new one or newer ram, motherboard etc
Also it does crash when Mcafee is scanning, not all of the time.Sometimes I can continue playing as it is running and it is fine. If some software is updating/upgrading, it can freeze or crash and will shut down completely if Windows is updating.
It has not crashed or shut down at all for the last few hours becasue I have not been upgrading anything or have only one website up.
You can prob check that.
I am going to be a lot more careful with not running too many websites at the same time, downloading stuff and making sure that nothing is updating or upgrading while I am playing.
BTW Eric. Sent you a message about 2 weeks ago about a few things any news on those please.
Cheers
Eric
Computer crashes and shut downs-FAO EricS and IainMcneil
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Re: Computer crashes and shut downs-FAO EricS and IainMcneil
Hi Eric,
you will definitely need to get your machine running smoothly as its not fair to others if your machine crashes and gives you the chance to replay turns and change your tactics. I understand its not intentional but it does give an unfair advantage so we would have to stop you playing if you were unable to get it working. I hope you can understand why we need to enforce these rules. We want to allow everyone to play but we neeed to maintain an even playing field for everyone to enjoy the game.
Cheers
Iain
you will definitely need to get your machine running smoothly as its not fair to others if your machine crashes and gives you the chance to replay turns and change your tactics. I understand its not intentional but it does give an unfair advantage so we would have to stop you playing if you were unable to get it working. I hope you can understand why we need to enforce these rules. We want to allow everyone to play but we neeed to maintain an even playing field for everyone to enjoy the game.
Cheers
Iain
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Re: Computer crashes and shut downs-FAO EricS and IainMcneil
Having been a similar position for a while when my old laptop had a problem with shutting down in warm weather but not at other times, I think that it might be better to provide a warning to other players that the issue has occurred but not to go so far as to prohibit someone from multi-player. This would allow someone in a situation such as Eric's to explain his issue to those who are concerned without completely barring him. Seems to me that many people have been enjoying this game since it came out with this issue in existence so I don't think this is such a problem that it warrants erring on the side of over zealous enforcement.iainmcneil wrote:Hi Eric,
you will definitely need to get your machine running smoothly as its not fair to others if your machine crashes and gives you the chance to replay turns and change your tactics. I understand its not intentional but it does give an unfair advantage so we would have to stop you playing if you were unable to get it working. I hope you can understand why we need to enforce these rules. We want to allow everyone to play but we neeed to maintain an even playing field for everyone to enjoy the game.
Cheers
Iain
Chris
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Re: Computer crashes and shut downs-FAO EricS and IainMcneil
Agreed
Although what other people have pointed out is that you can use alt, ctrl and delete to bring up the task manager and exit the game.
Just played agst the computer but it doesn't work on that.
I do know that when my computer did shut down once because of windows and I was playing the computer. When I switched computer back on, I was able to play that very same game as there was an autosave. It actually saved me back into the position I was when I was making a move.
What measures are you going to take with ref to use of Task Manager and secondly will you be able to differentiate the difference between the use of task manager and the computer shutting down due to upgrades, a fuse had gone, electricity has cut out or an act of nature.
I also sent a message to Eric a while back concerning these issues.
1) It is happening quite a lot now. A troop that would normally evade stands when it has been contacted by a pursuing enemy unit. I had an lf always on evade, with enough space (nothing at all behind him) to evade and yet it stood when hit by a pikeman.
2) I believe I started this. In order for me to beat prot spears with armoured cav or arm sprs with ha knights, cats. I would on purpose block it's break off move. There will be ocassions when a player has no chance (protecting a flank, shooting from a hill etc). I did this as I found it was the only way to beat spears. However in the TT game if you are unable to break off a certain distance you drop a cohesion level. Would this be classed as a bug and what can be done about it.
3) Although I have also noticed that on ocassions a mounted unit, stays in contact with a foot unit that is still steady. Again is that a bug or have you implemented something into the game where a mounted unit realises it can actually beat the foot unit. Using the examples in 2) Armoured sup cav with sword, would or should beat prot avg off spr/def spear.
4) Finally bow armed cav are standing against lt spear armed cav or lance armed cav. Even sup bow/sword arm cav will stand agst lance, sword, ha, sup kn. That is when the cav is on AI evade. I thought it would automatically evade based on being hit by something that has a better impact factor?
Will include this in another link just in case
Cheers
Eric
Although what other people have pointed out is that you can use alt, ctrl and delete to bring up the task manager and exit the game.
Just played agst the computer but it doesn't work on that.
I do know that when my computer did shut down once because of windows and I was playing the computer. When I switched computer back on, I was able to play that very same game as there was an autosave. It actually saved me back into the position I was when I was making a move.
What measures are you going to take with ref to use of Task Manager and secondly will you be able to differentiate the difference between the use of task manager and the computer shutting down due to upgrades, a fuse had gone, electricity has cut out or an act of nature.
I also sent a message to Eric a while back concerning these issues.
1) It is happening quite a lot now. A troop that would normally evade stands when it has been contacted by a pursuing enemy unit. I had an lf always on evade, with enough space (nothing at all behind him) to evade and yet it stood when hit by a pikeman.
2) I believe I started this. In order for me to beat prot spears with armoured cav or arm sprs with ha knights, cats. I would on purpose block it's break off move. There will be ocassions when a player has no chance (protecting a flank, shooting from a hill etc). I did this as I found it was the only way to beat spears. However in the TT game if you are unable to break off a certain distance you drop a cohesion level. Would this be classed as a bug and what can be done about it.
3) Although I have also noticed that on ocassions a mounted unit, stays in contact with a foot unit that is still steady. Again is that a bug or have you implemented something into the game where a mounted unit realises it can actually beat the foot unit. Using the examples in 2) Armoured sup cav with sword, would or should beat prot avg off spr/def spear.
4) Finally bow armed cav are standing against lt spear armed cav or lance armed cav. Even sup bow/sword arm cav will stand agst lance, sword, ha, sup kn. That is when the cav is on AI evade. I thought it would automatically evade based on being hit by something that has a better impact factor?
Will include this in another link just in case
Cheers
Eric
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Re: Computer crashes and shut downs-FAO EricS and IainMcneil
Hi Chris
Thanks for that.
My original agreed was based on not really reading what Iain had typed in.
Otherwise, my retort may have been a bit more naughtier:)
Cheers
Thanks for that.
My original agreed was based on not really reading what Iain had typed in.
Otherwise, my retort may have been a bit more naughtier:)
Cheers
Re: Computer crashes and shut downs-FAO EricS and IainMcneil
I think that the most needed feature with anticheating thingie is that both players receive the message of the multidownload. So that way after hearing the explanation of the opponent you can choose what to do.
Silly example: tournament game that is going quite well for both with no interruptions of any kind and suddenly on the final turns one of them makes a restart (with any of the 2 options known to do it). Could be just bad luck yu have a crash of the Pc or out of elecricity or a "coincidence"? The player who made it receives the warning of slitherine but actually can continue with the game. The other one never knows what is happening and could loose the game never knowing that he could have been cheated.
Salut!
Silly example: tournament game that is going quite well for both with no interruptions of any kind and suddenly on the final turns one of them makes a restart (with any of the 2 options known to do it). Could be just bad luck yu have a crash of the Pc or out of elecricity or a "coincidence"? The player who made it receives the warning of slitherine but actually can continue with the game. The other one never knows what is happening and could loose the game never knowing that he could have been cheated.
Salut!
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Re: Computer crashes and shut downs-FAO EricS and IainMcneil
Yes I mentioned that in some other link. Not the two players but for it to be announced in a specific link, for the whole community. "Player X has 7 multiple downloads today". It would be good if they could include a time as well. It would then be known by the player he was playing against. Also if that player X is doing it quite regularly, he may well find it difficult to find an opponent.
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Re: Computer crashes and shut downs-FAO EricS and IainMcneil
Hello ive just noticed this thread dealing with mystery crashes while playing online. I have brought forward my problem in a recent thread where all of a sudden my computer has twice crashed this week while playing this game online. I have notified my opponents about it. It doesnt so far happened with any other thing im using on my computer only this game. If it does happen elsewhere then most likely its something ive downloaded and will have to do a system restore i suppose.I just thought i ll be honest about it thanks.
