Shot with melee capability - still shot?

[Three]

Armour doesn't count against shot, but do shot troops with a melee capability (Haiduks, Janissaries etc) still count as "shot" in the melee phase as far as the armour POA is concerned or do they transform into non-shot because of the melee capability?

I can see it both ways

[kevinj]

Shot are any foot with an appropriate firearm capability (P174). Having something extra does not change this.

[viperofmilan]

And to add insult to injury, if you are say foot armed with HW or sword you will not get the + POA for those weapons when fighting LF with a firearm in an enclosed field - protected shot you see. Comes as quite a shock when your armored MF swordmen count no +POAs against LF arquebus in an enclosed field. You do have more dice, of course.

Kevin

[stecal]

Yup, LF with firearms are still shot - comes in handy when you need to reman your captured guns as only pike and/or shot can do so.

[alasdair2204]

And to add insult to injury, if you are say foot armed with HW or sword you will not get the + POA for those weapons when fighting LF with a firearm in an enclosed field - protected shot you see. Comes as quite a shock when your armored MF swordmen count no +POAs against LF arquebus in an enclosed field. You do have more dice, of course.

Kevin

Have to check that one when I get home, I though only Foot Battle Troops got the protected status not light infantry, Dragoons getting it becasue they are medium foot, I'll check it in the rule book when I get home

cheers

Alasdair

[petedalby]

Have to check that one when I get home, I though only Foot Battle Troops got the protected status not light infantry,

It appears any foot base counts as protected in enclosed fields or a village - see page 126.

[deadtorius]

And to add insult to injury, if you are say foot armed with HW or sword you will not get the + POA for those weapons when fighting LF with a firearm in an enclosed field - protected shot you see. Comes as quite a shock when your armored MF swordmen count no +POAs against LF arquebus in an enclosed field. You do have more dice, of course.

Lets hope there are more of your swordsmen as well, the ++ for being an overlap counts regardless of other POA's, so if you are an overlap you still get ++ on the dirty little LF sneaks.