New Romanian units

[Mark50]

Problem with R-1 as recon is that the max speed is translated into 5 movement, which makes the special recon movement nearly impracticable. All recon units in the game have 8 movement with the exception of PzIIL which has 7. Should I artificially increase the R-1 movement to 6 to make it a bit more useful?

Maybe using the R-1 as a recon wasn`t that great of an idea then? What does it mean to be a recon and not a tank btw? From the game`s mechanics I mean. Will the recon get specific traits/heroes(which increase its recon attributes)?

[dragos]

I was speaking about the special trait of the recon units, the phased movement. When it moves and stops into a hex, it can move again with the remaining move points - 1. So at move 5, you need to stop at maximum 3 hexes away to have at least one movement point remaining. It can still infiltrate through enemy zones of control to attack that artillery behind if it starts close enough.

[Mark50]

I was speaking about the special trait of the recon units, the phased movement. When it moves and stops into a hex, it can move again with the remaining move points - 1. So at move 5, you need to stop at maximum 3 hexes away to have at least one movement point remaining. It can still infiltrate through enemy zones of control to attack that artillery behind if it starts close enough.

Ok, but will it be very likely to improve that through medals, heroes etc.?

[Uhu]

Problem with R-1 as recon is that the max speed is translated into 5 movement, which makes the special recon movement nearly impracticable. All recon units in the game have 8 movement with the exception of PzIIL which has 7. Should I artificially increase the R-1 movement to 6 to make it a bit more useful?

I would vote in movement 6.

[dragos]

Ok, but will it be very likely to improve that through medals, heroes etc.?

If you are lucky you can get +1 movement heroes, but it is not guaranteed and only late in game. Usually recon units do not survive enough to get heroes

[Mark50]

Ok, but will it be very likely to improve that through medals, heroes etc.?

If you are lucky you can get +1 movement heroes, but it is not guaranteed and only late in game. Usually recon units do not survive enough to get heroes

I treasure mine and keep it relatively safe.

Well, as a conclusion, while the R-1 was the recon vehicle of the Romanian army(at least in the beginning) it doesn`t really fit the recon class of PzC. So either we can live with certain (added) vehicles that while being recons are bellow vanilla standards or we`ll have to leave the R-1 be a light tank basically. I`d personally prefer to not break a certain conversion rule(if you`re applying it strictly all over) by giving the R-1 more autonomy than it deserves in such conditions.

On a somewhat different topic, may I ask you which do you consider to be the most emblematic equipment(that`s not already in PzC) for the Romanian army? If you were to pick just a handful(because clearly developers wouldn`t spend time on a detailed roster for the smaller nations). I was thinking that even with just a Panzer 35(t), a Savoia Marchetti JRS 79 B and an IAR-80 Romania would have seemed to have some in game identity.

[dragos]

I treasure mine and keep it relatively safe.

I wonder how do you manage to keep them alive from 1943 on. Any encounter with heavy armor will result in the pulverization of the poor recon. In US scenarios I was replacing recons like socks.

Well, as a conclusion, while the R-1 was the recon vehicle of the Romanian army(at least in the beginning) it doesn`t really fit the recon class of PzC. So either we can live with certain (added) vehicles that while being recons are bellow vanilla standards or we`ll have to leave the R-1 be a light tank basically. I`d personally prefer to not break a certain conversion rule(if you`re applying it strictly all over) by giving the R-1 more autonomy than it deserves in such conditions.

I think I'll keep R-1 as tank after all.

On a somewhat different topic, may I ask you which do you consider to be the most emblematic equipment(that`s not already in PzC) for the Romanian army? If you were to pick just a handful(because clearly developers wouldn`t spend time on a detailed roster for the smaller nations). I was thinking that even with just a Panzer 35(t), a Savoia Marchetti JRS 79 B and an IAR-80 Romania would have seemed to have some in game identity.

I agree with your picks

[Mark50]

I wonder how do you manage to keep them alive from 1943 on.

When DLC `43 will be released I`ll get back to you. I was referring to the Grand campaigns and I`ve managed to keep mine(I only have one) alive so far. As far as the main vanilla - non DLC - campaigns are concerned I`ve played them, but I haven`t payed much attention to what happened to the units because tbh I`ve been pretty underwhelmed by the overall experience. I might have lost recons there. That said, for reconnaissance I tend to use more the aircraft and generally use the armoured cars to finish jobs and protect exposed flanks. Given their retreat ability too(and the AI`s almost complete reluctance to attack something protected by artillery) it`s not that hard to keep them alive if you really want to.

[AugustinMalar]

@dragos
Will you make a Romanian infantry icon with the Dutch helmet ?

Please check this topic. I wonder if you would be interested to help ?
viewtopic.php?t=26246&start=40

[dragos]

@dragos
Will you make a Romanian infantry icon with the Dutch helmet ?

The tactical icons for infantry are small enough to make Dutch helmets hardly noticeable. This should be at the bottom of the TO DO list and right now the effort should be focused on other things. Probably I wouldn't even bother with this.

Please check this topic. I wonder if you would be interested to help ?
viewtopic.php?t=26246&start=40

Unfortunately my hands are full right now.

[dragos]

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100mm Skoda model 1916 mountain howitzer :

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[Tima]

Those new Rumainian armoured units look great. Are you going to add other aircraft units too. I've been a fan of the PZL P23 Karas ground attack aircraft that was built in Poland but Rumainia purchased and also recieved after the fall of Poland to Germany. The Rumainains used them as dive bombers right up to and including the battle of Stalingrad. Afterwards they received Stuka D's. You could also use the artwork for the German FW 190, change it slightly and it would look a lot like the IAR 80 Rumainian indigenous fighter that did very well against both Russian and American fighters.

Lets hope the Lordz will incorporate your new units into the main game and extra campaigns in the future.

[dragos]

Those new Rumainian armoured units look great. Are you going to add other aircraft units too. I've been a fan of the PZL P23 Karas ground attack aircraft that was built in Poland but Rumainia purchased and also recieved after the fall of Poland to Germany. The Rumainains used them as dive bombers right up to and including the battle of Stalingrad. Afterwards they received Stuka D's. You could also use the artwork for the German FW 190, change it slightly and it would look a lot like the IAR 80 Rumainian indigenous fighter that did very well against both Russian and American fighters.

Thanks! You have probably missed the IAR 80 fighter on the 3rd page of the thread.

Lets hope the Lordz will incorporate your new units into the main game and extra campaigns in the future.

They won't be included in official releases, but they can serve in fan made custom campaigns.

[nikivdd]

They won't be included in official releases, but they can serve in fan made custom campaigns.

Actually they will serve wonderfully and althou not released yet, i already made plans for them

You are doing a great job with those units, they make a great addition.

[flakfernrohr]

As far as I am concerned, any quality unit icon made by a generous member and contributed to the group as a whole is deeply appreciated. I do not care what it is, what country it represents or anything like that. I may not even use all the icons, but they are there if I ever do wish to use them and so I appreciate the hard and fine work done. I put every single one of them in a master file on my computers.

[Tima]

Its a shame the Lordz won't be adding your units into a DLC. They could be used in a DLC 1944 south. There was a huge amount of fighting in southern Europe near the end of the war that has been over looked.

Will you be doing the same with other countries like Hungary. The Hungarians had a lot of different units as well. They actually were manufacturing ME 210's and 410's for themselves and Germany too.

I would also love to see Finnish and Croation units. It would interesting to see the paramilitary infantry units from the Axis allies. For example: Croation Ustasa, Hungarian Arrowed Cross, Romainian Iron Guard,
Italian Blackshirts, etc..

I know there would be legal issues, but the Lordz could work something out with you.

[Ballermann]

Wow, cool stuff
When we can download all this nice units?

[dragos]

When we can download all this nice units?

When I will finish . Until now the unit stats are 100% done and the graphics are about 50% done.

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[VPaulus]

Look great!

[VPaulus]

Do you give us permission to use your icons?
We need that 100mm Skoda model 1916 mountain howitzer for the Slovak campaign.