Vichy France

[Beruldsen]

After Vichy is established...does Vichy become an ally of the Axis...more specifically...can German troops be stationed in Vichy North Africa?

[gwgardner]

Vichy becomes an Axis-leaning neutral. It has to be pressured diplomatically to become a full Axis partner. Or there are situations whereby the Germans can dissolve Vichy. Until then, no German access to Vichy territory.

[Beruldsen]

Interesting....I'm about to start a new GC as the Germans and I'm wondering how to best spend my Diplomacy funds. Any suggestions?

[Geordietaf]

I've been using Fall Gelb as an extended personal tutorial. Having taken out Holland and Belgium I then went on to take Paris in late June. France continued to fight until October, when I was finally within reach of Perpignan and Marseilles. Only then did the Vichy option arise. Is the timing of that option a matter of chance? I would have thought than once the Panzers were doing wheelies down the Champs Elysees the French would throw in the towel on most occasions.

[Beruldsen]

Vichy doesn't happen with just Paris...you have to take several other cities...especially those north

[Geordietaf]

Vichy doesn't happen with just Paris...you have to take several other cities...especially those north

Thanks. Any idea which ones? I haven't found anything in the manual. In my example Metz withstood a longish siege and come to think of it the Vichy option came soon after it fell.

[Beruldsen]

I'm not sure...but I don't think you have to go south of Vichy

[Rasputitsa]

Vichy doesn't happen with just Paris...you have to take several other cities...especially those north

Thanks. Any idea which ones? I haven't found anything in the manual. In my example Metz withstood a longish siege and come to think of it the Vichy option came soon after it fell.

From the Matrix Forum on 'Time of Fury', from Doomtrader :

From the top of my head, to trigger Vichy, you currently need to control:
Paris
and
Nantes
and
(Metz and Reims) or (Lille and Reims) or (Metz and Lille)
and
Tours or Caens

I didn't have to go as far as Nantes to get the armistice offer.

[Geordietaf]

That's a great help, thanks.