Carthaginian challenge (or advice needed)

flamingpig0 · Post by **flamingpig0** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:57 pm

I am trying to design a relatively competitive Later Carthaginian army to take on a friends MRR or LRR.

Advice on composition would be most welcome.

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:04 pm

flamingpig0 wrote:I am trying to design a relatively competitive Later Carthaginian army to take on a friends MRR or LRR.

Advice on composition would be most welcome.

The problem I always had with the Carthaginians was that there was enough stuff to contest an area, but not enough to win... For instance, you get some really good MF, but only two BG's, so you could contest a piece of rough going, but eventually get swamped by numbers.

Ditto the Cavalry and Spearmen, you get just enough to look good, but when it comes to the cold hard fight, there isn't enough.

For practical advice - don't get drawn into taking a couple of BG's of all the good stuff - it will lose. Pick a theme and then build an army around that - ignoring some potentially very nice troops in the process.

Against Romans, Armoured Spearmen are the order of they day - max out on those and then pick troops to support and complement these - some nice cavalry, some lights, etc, etc.

I am sure there is a good army in their somewhere....

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:29 am

Yep picking a little of this and a little of that is dangerous.

pease1 · Post by **pease1** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:48 pm

I don't have the list handy so forgive any mistakes.

Minimize the amount of Gaul infantry you take, maximize the Vet. spears and Elephants. My experience is Hannibal is worth the cost.

Don't underestimate the value of the Gaul and Numidian Cavalry. The Roman player won't have much to oppose them so they'll work for you.

Win with the Elephants, Vets and the flanking cavalry, hopefully all on one side while gracefully dancing on the other side of the battlefield.

ethan · Post by **ethan** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:41 pm

I like IC, 2xTC

1x6 Average LF Javelins
1x4 Super LF Slings
1x4 Average LH Javelins
1x 6 Average LF Javelins
1x4 Drilled Super Armoured Lt Spear, Sw Cav
1x8 Drilled Super Armoured Off Spear
1x8 Drilled Super Armoured Off Spear
1x4 Average LH Javelins
1x4 Super Protected Lt Spear Sw Cav
1x8 Average Drilled MF Impact Foot
1x6 Average Drilled MF lt Spear, Sw
1x4 Super Protected Lt Spear Sw Cav
1x4 Super Protected Lt Spear Sw Cav

The entire army should be viewed as a delivery system for the offensive spear, they are what wins. THere are also useful variants with 3x6 Offensive spear instead of 2x8

muz177 · Post by **muz177** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:58 pm

How many points is this list?

Muz

ravenflight · Post by **ravenflight** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:30 pm

pease1 wrote:Win with the Elephants, Vets and the flanking cavalry, hopefully all on one side while gracefully dancing on the other side of the battlefield.

So... err... kinda do what Hannibal did

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:26 am

muz177 wrote:How many points is this list?

Muz

he normally plays 800

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