1.62 North African dynsties (Aghlabids , allies etc)

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:50 pm

Not sure if intentional ie historical but...

Berber Spears: graphics for the men portray them as black
Black Slave Spearmen/ Javelinmen: are "arabic" looking

Maybe the graphics should be reversed or should we even be talking about this

keithmartinsmith · Post by **keithmartinsmith** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:07 pm

I think the images are correct and the right way around.

Keith

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:13 pm

keithmartinsmith wrote:I think the images are correct and the right way around.

Keith

Ok, I wasnt sure what these guys were supposed to represent although Berber language and ethnicity was/is more mediteranian/asian than african in origin.

Can anyone fill me in on the background of the slave troops? Are they kinda like the horse nomad "slaves" used by the Turks , the caliphates and later "egyptions" (ie Mamelukes), but of differnt origin and type , infantry vs HA's?

wellard2006 · Post by **wellard2006** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:08 pm

TheGrayMouser wrote:
keithmartinsmith wrote:I think the images are correct and the right way around.

Keith
Ok, I wasnt sure what these guys were supposed to represent although Berber language and ethnicity was/is more mediteranian/asian than african in origin.

Can anyone fill me in on the background of the slave troops? Are they kinda like the horse nomad "slaves" used by the Turks , the caliphates and later "egyptions" (ie Mamelukes), but of differnt origin and type , infantry vs HA's?

Dont know if this is much use but it seems a fairly comprehensive article on Muslim Military slavery

redcoat2 · Post by **redcoat2** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:45 pm

The Berber spearmen (heavy foot) look alittle underdressed to me. I think the 'unit-bib10-arab-spearman-png' figure would make a good berber spearman.

The Berber Javelinmen could be kept as they are. After all they run around alot.

keithmartinsmith · Post by **keithmartinsmith** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:00 pm

Unlikely to change as the the images are based on the Berber models from the Essex range.
Keith