Issues with Fallschirmjaegers

huertgenwald · Post by **huertgenwald** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:49 am

First things first: Thx for this great game !

2) I'm just invading the US east coast with my core troops including 2 fallschrmjaeger 43.

a) when placing them i couldn't put them into a plane.
Had to use a landing boat instead.

b) After entering a conquered airstrip i could not let them embark a plane.
i'm only allowed to march them across the map.

How so ?
I guess that's not intended by you ?

TIA

Tarrak · Post by **Tarrak** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:00 pm

This actually is intended. You get per scenario a fixed amount of air, rail and naval transports. In case of the Eastern USA scenario there are simply no air transports available. You can see the amount of available transports when you mouse over the embark on transports button and wait for the tooltip to pop up.

huertgenwald · Post by **huertgenwald** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:20 pm

Thanks for the hint Tarrak !

Hey that's great, 2 nearly useless units

Fimconte · Post by **Fimconte** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:33 pm

I assume this is because the Ju52 wouldn't be able to make a direct transatlantic trip.

But same can be said for most of the planes in the German arsenal.

So one must assume they were unarmed for most of the crossing, refueled and later armed on-board the Graf Zeppelin.

Thus, it makes no sense as to why you can't have Paratroopers deployed in the US East Coast invasion.

Except, perhaps, scenario balance reasons?

huertgenwald wrote:Thanks for the hint Tarrak !

Hey that's great, 2 nearly useless units

Not really useless, as you could upgrade them into other infantry. Or simply not use them in this scenario.

huertgenwald · Post by **huertgenwald** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:39 pm

No, Fimconte can't upgrade in the running game, don't quite know why

But i can modify the scenario for the next campaign run

Fimconte · Post by **Fimconte** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:13 pm

How odd, I tested it and I could upgrade my reserve Fallschirmjaegers into Pioneers in the deployment phase.

You certain you had enough prestige?

MartyWard · Post by **MartyWard** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:18 pm

huertgenwald wrote:No, Fimconte can't upgrade in the running game, don't quite know why

But i can modify the scenario for the next campaign run

You could give them trucks.

huertgenwald · Post by **huertgenwald** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:49 pm

Yep, i could but don't want to.

In the last campaign card (US Westcoast) i could only place 1 FJ 43
thanks to my whopping Luftwaffe :

5 fighters

4 stukas

2 long range bombers

and TWO KARLs

Oh well

So i learned what NOT to use in the next campaign.

Kerensky · Post by **Kerensky** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:33 pm

huertgenwald wrote:Yep, i could but don't want to.

In the last campaign card (US Westcoast) i could only place 1 FJ 43

That doesn't sound right. USA Mid West is configured to allow 3 Ju-52 air transports and USA West Coast is configured to allow 4 Ju-52 air transports.

Only USA East Coast is strangely deficient in air transport (It has been rationalized elsewhere this is because JU-52s can't make a trans-Atlantic flight).

AgentX · Post by **AgentX** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:14 am

Kerensky wrote:That doesn't sound right. USA Mid West is configured to allow 3 Ju-52 air transports and USA West Coast is configured to allow 4 Ju-52 air transports.

Kerensky, I believe it is because he ran out of deployment spots for his fallschirmjagers since they all got used up by his air force: he had 11 planes and the US West Coast map has only 12 air deployment spots. So, he was only able to get one of them airborne on the first turn. He could always put his other one on an airfield (after buying a truck), though, and then embark it on turn 1 (lose 50p on the truck; no big deal). That way, he'd still be able to get two airborne on the first turn. Actually, there are two German airfields at the start, so, he could have put both fallschirmjagers on the airfields and used all air deployment spots for planes.

Tarrak · Post by **Tarrak** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:01 am

Alternatively you just deploy the rest of your paratroopers in turn one after you moved some of you air units away. If you really want to move your paratroopers asap well .. delay the deployment of some other planes and deploy the paratroopers instead. Whatever you do its cheaper then buying them a truck and deploying them on the ground and then loading them up abandoning the truck and they become airborne and available at exact same turn.

huertgenwald · Post by **huertgenwald** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:46 pm

Correct AgentX

Since i'm in the rockys now i transmogrified the 2 remaining FJ 43 into Gebirgsjaeger 43