Chargers involuntarily breaking through

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:23 pm

Another from the ITC on a different table.

PPPP
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HHH

P = is friendly LF pointing up
<L = Enemy LH facing left
H = Friendly HChariots facing up

The LF is stuck and getting shot up. So the HCH declare a charge which requires an angle to force the enemy LH to evade. The orginial angle picked had the HCH moving 4 MU even if the LH evaded stillnot contacting their own friendly LF.

LH evade. HCH roll up 2 on vmd. Do the HCH want to go into the LF. What happens?
It was a voluntary charge so no burst through. Umpire ruled the HCH go and stop at edge of LF.

deadtorius · Post by **deadtorius** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:26 am

Could they have not wasted a MU or 2 wheeling more towards the LH, or the direction they had evaded? Seems like a good way to waste unwanted get lost you skirmishing buggers type move.

imanfasil · Post by **imanfasil** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:38 am

Chariots could have wheeled to the path of the evade and then dropped back a base to avoid friends if needed, right?

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:59 am

hazelbark wrote:Another from the ITC on a different table.

PPPP
__<LLLL
HHH

P = is friendly LF pointing up
<L = Enemy LH facing left
H = Friendly HChariots facing up

The LF is stuck and getting shot up. So the HCH declare a charge which requires an angle to force the enemy LH to evade. The orginial angle picked had the HCH moving 4 MU even if the LH evaded stillnot contacting their own friendly LF.

LH evade. HCH roll up 2 on vmd. Do the HCH want to go into the LF. What happens?
It was a voluntary charge so no burst through. Umpire ruled the HCH go and stop at edge of LF.

IMO the umpire was correct - at least that is how I have previously ruled suimilar situations.

grahambriggs · Post by **grahambriggs** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:52 am

You can (and must) burst through friends if you fail a CMT not to charge.

But a charge cannot interpenetrate friends see movement phase for moving through friends: "No interpenetrations are permitted when charging."

Not sure it's specifically written in the rules, but I presume this means that the friends might stop the charge once you touch them.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:07 pm

imanfasil wrote:Chariots could have wheeled to the path of the evade and then dropped back a base to avoid friends if needed, right?

We tried. Not enough to matter.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:08 pm

deadtorius wrote:Could they have not wasted a MU or 2 wheeling more towards the LH, or the direction they had evaded? Seems like a good way to waste unwanted get lost you skirmishing buggers type move.

Their angle was set and because the LH in between was actually kinked and evaded in such a way the chariots couldn't wheel to avoid the issue.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:09 pm

grahambriggs wrote:You can (and must) burst through friends if you fail a CMT not to charge.

But a charge cannot interpenetrate friends see movement phase for moving through friends: "No interpenetrations are permitted when charging."

Not sure it's specifically written in the rules, but I presume this means that the friends might stop the charge once you touch them.

Which is what we concluded and the umpire ruled. Was an oddity.

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:20 pm

Would you believe it! The exact moment caught on camera by an onlooker...

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:16 pm

And it caught the next table where Phil sacrificed 2.5 BGs of LH to me.

(he lost three but then bolstered one back until I chased it off board)

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