restricted zone

nagash · Post by **nagash** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:49 am

question on leaving the restricted zone, specifically for skirmishers on foot

skirmish units A and B are in each others restricted zone, right behind B is a unit of medium foot infantry (they are not in the restricted zone 2MU range).

unit B wants to retreat behind medium foot, however this takes them out of the restricted area of unit A, however the rule stats that they must be in front of the unit whose restricted zone they are within.

so can unit B perform this maneauver. I would think not but then it takes away the advantage that light foot have.

kalpesh

berthier · Post by **berthier** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:19 am

They can move out of the two inch restricted zone of another foot skirmisher but have to stay partially in front of the pinning unit.

nagash · Post by **nagash** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:03 am

in essence unit B would still be in front of the medium infantry..thus preventing the medium infantry from charging.

imanfasil · Post by **imanfasil** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:14 am

No. THey do not have to remain in front of the medium foot. They just need to stay in front of the LF unit... draw a straight line out front edges of A... B must end its move at least partially in that area.

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It doesn't matter the distance or number of units between A and B as long as at least part of a base from unit B is within the area shown,

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zoltan · Post by **zoltan** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:15 am

So the answer is that B can pass completely through its freindly MF. All that is required is that some small part of B remain in front of a line extending A's restricted area forwards. It doesn't matter that this line passes through the MF.

cankre · Post by **cankre** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:37 am

Sweet!! I thought that was weird. If they couldn't go through the infantry behind them, I would say that there was no use for LF screening NF or HF!

Note to self...more screens against Kal's ton's of shooting next week! LOL

nagash · Post by **nagash** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:57 pm

actually he is saying,,, you must have bases visible in your case, the MF were right behind the skirmishers, if they fled behind no base would be in the front of Unit A since they are all hiding behind MF. if the MF were off to the side(by a base) and you moved back then the skirmishes can get away, staying within my zone according the rules and you can charge with the MF

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:15 pm

Providing the BG in a restricted area ends its move partly in front of a base of the BG that restricted it there is no problem intepenetrating other BG and putting them between you and the enemy. So the LF can move through and behind other BG. No bases have to be 'visible' as you put it. There does not have to be a clear line of sight.

Only slightly related to this but, restricted area even passes through other enemy troops. So a BG of troops within 2MU of the front of enemy are restricted even if there are other troops between them

cankre · Post by **cankre** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:19 pm

Ahhh...gotcha! No problem. That is just a positioning thing. I will just have to be careful how I move up the unit behind!

Weird though. I wouldn't think it would matter. Skirmish screens retired behind mainline troops all through history.

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:27 pm

cankre wrote:Ahhh...gotcha! No problem. That is just a positioning thing. I will just have to be careful how I move up the unit behind!

It doesn't really matter how you move the unit behind LF. They can interpenetrate in any direction.
This is perfectly legal

cankre · Post by **cankre** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:38 pm

I thought so!!!! The other way just didn't make sense to me.

zoltan · Post by **zoltan** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:31 pm

Phil's diagram sums it up nicely. Another scenario would be where your LF moved back into a wood or village etc. It doesn't matter that they can no longer be seen by the enemy who were exerting a restricted area. As long as you can draw the line (as shown by Phil) its ok.