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impar
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Incremental Upgrades List

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What follows is a list of the family trees ingame that allow for cheaper upgrades. It may be considered a spoiler.
For example, upgrading a Wehrmacht (127 prestige) unit to Grenadier (167 prestige) costs only 40 prestige (167-127), upgrading to Gebirgsjager (127 prestige) costs 127 prestige as it is on another family tree.

Infantry
- Wehrmacht and Grenadiers, both the initial versions and the 43 kind.
- Pioniere and Pioniere 43.
- Fallschirmjagers and Fallschirmjagers 43.
- Gebirgsjagers and Gebirgsjagers 43.

Tanks
- Panzer I family.
- Panzer 38(t)A to Panzer III family. Probably a bug!
- Panzer III family.
- Panzer IV family.
- Panther family.

Artillery
- Towed traditional artilley family, the 7.5, 10.5, 15, 17 and 21 field guns.
- Towed rocket artillery, the Nebelwerfers.
- Sturmpanzer I, sIG 38, Wespe and Hummel.
- Stug IIIB, StuH 42 and StuG IV.

Fighters
- Me109 family.
- Fw190A and Fw190D. No Ta152?

Tactical bombers
- Stuka family, the Ju87 models.
- Me110 family plus Me410.
- Fw190F and Fw190G.

Strategic bombers
- Ju88 and Ju188.
- He111 and He 177.
- Do17 and Do217.

Anti-tank
- Towed panzerkanone family, 3.7, 5, 7.5 and 8.8 Pak.
- Stug IIIG, Stug IIIF and Stug IIIF/8.
- Panzerjager IV family, the Nashorn, JagdPz IV/40 and JagdPz IV/78. Funny, since Nashorn used a mix of PzIII and PzIV chassis.
- Marder II family.
- Marder III family, includes the Hetzer even if the chassis is based on Pz38(t)!

Air-defence
- Towed flugabwehrkanone (flak) family, from the 2cm to the 12.8cm.
- Half-tracked air-defense family, 10/4, 7/1 and 7/2.
- Full-tracked air-defense family, Ostwind, Mobelwagen, Gepard and Wirbelwind.

Recon
None. 8Rad would make some sense, but...
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Post by aschindler »

Thanks, Impar. Very useful. It's more intuitive than I thought now that I see it all laid out.
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Post by El_Condoro »

In the equipment.pzeqp file the 'Series' column is the 'family' for each unit. You can sort that column if you open it in Excel. You can also edit it to create your own 'families' but that would flag the file as custom.
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Re: Incremental Upgrades List

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Tanks
- Panzer I family.
- Panzer 38(t)A to Panzer III family. Probably a bug!


38t is similar to Pz III so I see why they included it.

However the 38 t should be upgraded to Marder I and Marder II and Hetzer


Anti-tank

- Panzerjager IV family, the Nashorn, JagdPz IV/40 and JagdPz IV/78. Funny, since Nashorn used a mix of PzIII and PzIV chassis.
- Marder II family.
- Marder III family, includes the Hetzer even if the chassis is based on Pz38(t)!

That should be fixed too.

Let me ask if they can fix this.
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Re: Incremental Upgrades List

Post by impar »

Razz1 wrote:38t is similar to Pz III so I see why they included it.
Pz38(t) is a czech engineered and built model, PzIII is a german engineered and built model.
No relation at all.
Razz1 wrote:However the 38 t should be upgraded to Marder I and Marder II and Hetzer
Cross-class upgrades?
Razz1 wrote:Let me ask if they can fix this.
There are more inconsistencies in the incremental upgrades paths.
Me110 is upgraded to Me410 but Fw190 isnt upgraded to Ta152.
The Air-Defense path is easily understood, the Anti-Tank is very confusing.
And the absence of incremental upgrades in Recon.

PS:
And allow a path from the SdKfz 251 to 250. Even if smaller the ingame stats are better.
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