Rebuilding PG "Offensive to Madrid" scenario

Ranta · Post by **Ranta** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:49 pm

Hi

I am currently rebuiling the old panzer generals campaign starting scenario (spanish civil war). I really liked it as a startup ito the big campaign, its breafings et cetrea. I further think, it can easily be fittet into the normal campaigns prestige settings. Thinking about starting with some "wehrmacht inf", , 1-2 pzI, some 7.5 ari and a stuka (all core), together, like in pg3d some italian and spanish auxilliary force. So in the end, one would have about the same amount of prestige available as in the polish scenario.

I have currently build the terrain settings, but no troops positioned or manually tilesets addapted, so there I still a lot of work to do. Since this is the first map, I ever created, I would like to know, what I could improve (e.g. I could not find any real life maps), what you like or what you dont like (and if you like an other starting cscenario at all).
(remember, his should be inspired by the old pg3d map, but can also have some own aspects - I already added some roads and a train lane).

I attached the map file (hopefully correct:) ) ( I woudl realy love a function to export the map as an jpg image)
http://www.2shared.com/file/jWb_XXkC/spain1.html

Best Regards

Ranta

EDIT: PLAYABL VERSION UP, SEE LINK 4 POSTS BELOW
EDIT2: FINAL VERSION INTEGRATED IN CAMPAIGN - SEE BELOW
link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bmybyc

Carius · Post by **Carius** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:08 pm

The senario you are talking about is called the "Madrid Offensive". The senario used the madrid map which is a rather small map. In addition the scenario is from PG2 not PG3d.

I can get you a birds eye view of the map and a copy of the terrian map used for the senario if you need it.

Ranta · Post by **Ranta** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:11 pm

They would probably be very helpfull, thx a lot

Best regards

Ranta

HBalck · Post by **HBalck** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:53 pm

In addition the scenario is from PG2 not PG3d

In Germany and France PG3d is PG2 !!!

H.Balck

Ranta · Post by **Ranta** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:12 pm

I have now finished the scenario up to the point, in which it is playble (as standalone scenario)

Since it is setteled in 1938, one can not buy any units up to now (I plan on slight changes concerning the availability in the equipment file, but id not do it yet), but the placed troops should be enough. Further, spanish troops are not implemented yet, so I used polish or italian untis to replace them (which I re - labeled/ flagged), Here, I am also think of some little futur equipment increase.

I would love some comments on landscape, and the troops positioning (I kinda think there are to feq enemies)/ gameplay.

If anyone has suggestions towards prestige settings, I would like to hear them, too. I award 25 prestige per turn at 300 starting prestige and about 300 winning prestige. Combined with 20 turns this would roughly make up forthe 900 starting prestige in the poland scenario (plus the two planes)

here is the link to this version:
http://www.2shared.com/file/O0n8g9zr/spain3.html

Pls help me and rate this scenario

Best regards

Ranta

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:39 pm

Ranta, could you please announce your map in the stick thread?
viewtopic.php?t=26808
Thanks.

Ranta · Post by **Ranta** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:51 pm

So, today I completed the scenario and incooperated it in the grand (originally poland) campaign, which will start at the spanish civil war now (this is why I added the campaign file as download). Prestige is balanced for field marschall difficulty and should be at the same amount as the before at start of the poland scenario (so the overall available prestige does NOT increase).

I modified the equipment file to make some of it available in '38. I further added some 109/stuka etc models, which represent the used prototype-series (, e.g. ju87a, be109c and which can be later upgraded in the poland scenario). Further, since there wasno natinal/republic spanish equip, I added some (minor infanterie and arty, nothing spectaculous, lightly below average stats to simmulate bad quippment/tactics of these troops).

The map works as scenario too, but its purpose lies on campaign play. I tried to keep a certain standard in map quality, so I invested a lot of time in tile selection (which I fin lacking in many other custom map). Please rate and test this map and tell me, whether I can improve it, be it in the used tiles, in units, prestige or other.

Download link:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/bmybyc

PLEASE (since I want to amke a good map, in need some help / criticism) test / rate this map and help me to improve it

Thanks for your effort, in advance.

Best regards
Ranta

PS. If here is some sort of accpetance / enjoyment for this map, I might add some further maps in the future. Besides some slight tweeking of the original maps (tweaking a tile here and there, changing 1-2 units) I realy feel that the Finish taks force (like in pg3d) and kharkov 42/3 might realy expand gaming experiance.

Gunnar2008 · Post by **Gunnar2008** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:30 pm

Hello,

after Madrid I wanted to proceed in Poland. But there is a "little" problem: I can not place any units on the map! Maybe you can fix this