Possible convoy owner change. Please vote

Peter Stauffenberg · Post by **Peter Stauffenberg** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:21 pm

I've been thinking a bit about the later part of the war and realize that the strength of the British compared to the US in GS v2.0 is a bit too high.

It's too dangerous to tamper with the production in USA and Britain because that can disrupt the game balance.

One change we could do without changing the game balance is to let the southern convoy become US controlled after USA joins the Allies. This is similar to the northern convoy becoming Russian. The southern convoy could have a spawning point on the southern map edge in the Atlantic and delivery port could be New York. The PP's USA will receive can simulate PP's received from Latin America and maybe even from the US west coast or Mexican Gulf.

The central convoy is the biggest and the southern convoy is the smallest. So the biggest convoy PP's will still go to UK. By doing this change we will see that USA will get more PP's at the expense of UK and I feel that's good. In the end game it's normal to see more British than US air units in Britain (e. g. strategic bombers) and that doesn't feel right. The US contributed with more than Britain in the last phase of the war.

Please vote yes or no on the proposed change:
* Southern convoy will be US controlled after USA joins the war

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:00 pm

Yes -- sounds good to me.

pk867 · Post by **pk867** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:07 pm

Yes. I agree also.

PionUrpo · Post by **PionUrpo** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:37 pm

Yes, US should have more punch when compared to UK.

gerones · Post by **gerones** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:40 pm

One of the consequences of the american lack of PP´s is that the allied player has to send (this way saving lots of PP´s) his american landing force DIRECTLY to France for D-Day. Historically, the americans previously sent their units to properly train them in England and then, land them in France. American army only sent directly their units to France ONCE the landings succeeded and Paris was liberated.

For this and for other reasons I vote yes to make the southern convoy go to american ports once USA has joined the allies. Even more, I would increase a little the strength of the southern convoy from 50 to 60 or 70, reducing the north or the central convoy strength for compensating it.

richardsd · Post by **richardsd** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:13 pm

yes, a very good idea

Blathergut · Post by **Blathergut** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:18 am

Peter Stauffenberg · Post by **Peter Stauffenberg** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:46 am

Good point. I have decreased the northern convoy by 10 and the central by 30 so the southern increases by 40.

These are the new values:
NORTH_ATLANTIC_CONVOY_SIZE 90 /*max production worth of a north atlantic convoy*/
MID_ATLANTIC_CONVOY_SIZE 110
SOUTH_ATLANTIC_CONVOY_SIZE 90

JimR · Post by **JimR** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:55 am

Yes, these changes sound good.

mamahuhu · Post by **mamahuhu** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:32 pm

yes! this is right!

Morris · Post by **Morris** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:29 pm

it is great ! but it will make Axis die earlier .

gerones · Post by **gerones** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:46 pm

Also, we shouldn´t forget about the importance of Panama Canal as a vital and strategic naval transit point during WW2. Increasing the strength of the south convoy would be good for simulating this.

PionUrpo · Post by **PionUrpo** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:23 pm

Morris wrote:it is great ! but it will make Axis die earlier .

This merely leads to Yanks having more PPs than Brits. There's no PPs added for the Allies as a whole so how does it lead to Axis losing faster?

Morris · Post by **Morris** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:40 pm

a little, almost no effect . but Axis is already in hopeless situation.

Peter Stauffenberg · Post by **Peter Stauffenberg** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:44 pm

Morris wrote:a little, almost no effect . but Axis is already in hopeless situation.

What do you mean by hopeless? Are you speaking about the strategic situation by the end of the war or that they can't even last to the end of the war (May 1945)?

Morris · Post by **Morris** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:01 am

Stauffenberg wrote:
Morris wrote:a little, almost no effect . but Axis is already in hopeless situation.
What do you mean by hopeless? Are you speaking about the strategic situation by the end of the war or that they can't even last to the end of the war (May 1945)?

You are quite right sir !