If you like the game ...

claymore58 · Post by **claymore58** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:08 am

As a fan of the PG series and of Panzerblitz (the board-game) and of Panzer Genadier (the old SSI Atari game), I can give the thumbs up for this game. The developers have certainly done their homework to produce an addictive and challenging (simple) war-game. Well done.

Claymore

Post by **IainMcNeil** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:21 am

User reviews are a bit tainted as when a game gets noticed people how like other games just rate it 0 to push it down the rankings so their game sits at the top. You can tell from the way the game was well over 90% rating when players of the game actually posted scores, before the game become the 2nd highest ranked game on game spot. After that it shot down to 78% due to all the 0 scores. I'd bet money that none of the low scores are from people who have played the game. Basically user scores end up being a poll of popularity. The more people playing the game the more good scores. It effectively means unless you are a mainstream title you get a low score. Unfortunately that's just the way the world works these days!

Igorputski · Post by **Igorputski** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:38 am

iainmcneil wrote:User reviews are a bit tainted as when a game gets noticed people how like other games just rate it 0 to push it down the rankings so their game sits at the top. You can tell from the way the game was well over 90% rating when players of the game actually posted scores, before the game become the 2nd highest ranked game on game spot. After that it shot down to 78% due to all the 0 scores. I'd bet money that none of the low scores are from people who have played the game. Basically user scores end up being a poll of popularity. The more people playing the game the more good scores. It effectively means unless you are a mainstream title you get a low score. Unfortunately that's just the way the world works these days!

Of course that doesn't work in the opposite way with those giving the game 10's that haven't even played or such a fanboi they'd give it a 10 when it deserves an 8? huh Iain? ;}P

Now why can you accept the 10's but not the 0's? You don't think people should not like the game? Remember everyone isn't a fanboi out there and that's where the true votes/scores really come in. That's why I like those open polls like that. At any rate just to reassure you scores in the 70's for a wargame are actually considered pretty good. It's very hard for a pure wargame to ever make it to the high 80's and 90's level as there's just more players who like RTS/FPS than wargames.

I'll still wager regardless of scores it will become one of your biggest sellers both now an in the future.

Post by **IainMcNeil** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:05 pm

You are missing the point. I don't mind any score from someone who has played the game - 0 is fine if you don't like it. A 10 for someone is a 0 for someone else. All I am saying is that it would be good to be able to validate feedback came from a player of the game rather than someone who probably doesn't even know what it looks like. The reason I do not believe the 0 to be valid is that its a very good game and I doubt anyone who has played it would actually rate it 0.

User scores just mean all scores end up being a measure of a genres popularity rather than quality of the game in the genre. Popular genres get high scores, niche genres get low scores.

I am probably wasting my time though

Igorputski · Post by **Igorputski** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:50 pm

I like the way Gamersgate does it best. You can't review a game unless you've at least bought it. I think this at least reduces the popularity votes of 10 down some or in their case 5 stars. But, I don't think you'll ever be able to get away from the system as it is now since it's been in place for 10+ years. The average pans out to some who actually bought it and the popularity contests, but, with an open rating system as such I do understand there will be plenty of overs and unders with 10's and 0's. Gamerankings completely shut down player ratings I guess because of lopsided ratings on both sides of the fence. I'll always lean to the user side of the ratings though because reviewers are too biased with their particular games they like and of course are just one person.

Shoota · Post by **Shoota** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:46 am

Pardon me if I use the wrong thread, but I didn't find a better one.

At first. I really like the game! I used to play PG in the good ol' times as well, but now as I became more mature I understand Panzer Corps much better as I did PG.

I just played Poland and Norway in the '39 campaing on Colonel and got two decisive victories (in the second attempts of each map). I like to read along here what people write about their tactics and so on. But because the understated city names in the game I find it hard to be able to relate their proceeding. Please make the city names more prominent for better acknowledgement while playing the game.

I will come up with more suggestions, when I know the right thread for them.

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:18 am

Hi,
If you've a suggestion or need to ask help, you can start your own thread in the main Panzer Corps section.
If you need tech support there Tech support section.
This is a stick thread to exhort people who like PzC to make a review or to vote in sites where you can classify the game.
In here you risk that a lot of users and the devs don't see your message.

Shoota · Post by **Shoota** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:35 am

Thanks VPaulus,

but wouldn't it be good to have a sticky thread to collect improvements and feedback from the customers/players? Even for your own or/and the developers better overview?

VPaulus · Post by **VPaulus** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:25 pm

It would have it's own advantage, but in the end we'll be add more confusion.
In a single thread things get messy/mixed usually, and some ideas just vanish in the middle of others.
While this way may seems more confusing, people can debate more easily, and it works better, IMO.

Shoota · Post by **Shoota** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:34 pm

Okay. I will open an own thread if have issues, or join into other discussions.

lordzimoa · Post by **lordzimoa** » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:13 pm

If there are people who are Amazon customers, like the game and have some spare time and want to support us, writing a customer review helps us a lot as small potatoe Indie developer.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panzer-Corps-We ... 717&sr=8-1

Thanks,

Tim aka LZ

MarsRobert · Post by **MarsRobert** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:00 am

I agree totally. Panzer Corps is an amazing gaming experience. The most fun I've had since Sid Meier's Civilization. The game is totally engaging! I plan on posting a five-star review as soon as I finish my second run through of the main campaign. I had wanted to post a review on Amazon, but I see that you are not selling it there (at least not at Amazon US).

Post by **IainMcNeil** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:29 am

We're in the process of adding more Amazon stores, but the European ones will be first.

MarsRobert · Post by **MarsRobert** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:26 pm

iainmcneil wrote:We're in the process of adding more Amazon stores, but the European ones will be first.

Thanks Iain. I will keep my eye on Amazon US.

BTW, again, I think Panzer Corps is an amazing game. It is fun, intense, historically viable, and I think the campaigns make the game very engaging in sort of an RPG sense. My only complaint is that it does seem like unless you're playing on an easy difficulty level or are an expert player, that you are going to witness your supreme military machine so painstakingly built up over many hard-fought battles between 1939-43 get trashed in 44-45. But then again, I suppose this is indeed what more or less happened historically.

TLord · Post by **TLord** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:19 pm

God I love this game! Got it over the weekend and it is so easy to figure out and get started. Last night spent a lovely hour slicing the Belgium and the Ardennes (on lowest setting as I am dipping my toe in and expect to up the notch as I go along). I'll log on to Gamespot this weekend and give it a good rating and I've been talking it up amongst my friends too. I hope the WWI game the Lordz are releasing is going to be similar cause if it is I might give that a go too!

flakfernrohr · Post by **flakfernrohr** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:41 am

I have loved the game since 1994-1995 when I first bought a copy and played on a Sony Playstation. It's like a long lost love coming back to me!

I wrote a review on Amazon too. 5 Stars.

KageToraUK · Post by **KageToraUK** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:07 pm

I haven't got round to writing a review anywhere yet - I will do. However, in the mean time, my own way of showing my loyalty to the game is a little more personal: my mobile phone ringtone is ingame music from Panzer Corps, the wallpaper is from the Panzer Corps welcome screen, and text message alerts use the HvyInfMG34.wav from the game.......

austashes · Post by **austashes** » Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:13 am

Thankyou, after years of patching Panzer General to play on new operating systems Panzer Corps brings it all back to life better than the original, I have spent 2 days playing the first few senarios getting to know the mechanics, game play is very straight forward, strategy well thats the game. Will have to get around to reading the manual

10 out of 10.

MarsRobert · Post by **MarsRobert** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:15 pm

I just posted a review on Metacritic under 'NGResonanceFan'

FYI, their formatting doesn't seem to allow for paragraph breaks so my review is one large paragraph. In any event I gave the game a '9'. Also, I had wanted to put a review on Gamespot, but you have to be a subscription or a 'Level Three' member, whatever that is. If there's anything I can't stand it's internet auto-rebilling.

pocatellodave · Post by **pocatellodave** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:42 am

I finally quit playing PG3 as it was shutting down on me for no apparent reason.Probably one of the Game Boosters fault.I found Panzer Corps by accident,and when I read the sim was a lot like PG,I jumped right on it!PG was addictive for me from the old dos game to Scorched Earth.I'm can tell you this gem is perfect for the armchair generals that don't like to be bogged down with a lot of crap,and just want to play a fun game.My only slight dislike,is the way the units move.I liked the way PG 3 had the vehicles move like they actually did.That being said this sim is a winner,and keep up the good work!

If you like the game ...

Where is the thread for suggestions or requests?