Interception charge

zoltan · Post by **zoltan** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:40 am

A declares a charge on C.
D declares an intercept charge as A will pass through D's 2 MU ZOI.
Does D charge into B and then step forward up to the 2 MU line, with A then charging into D?
Or does D stop a gnat's todger short of B (not permitted to make contact) with no step forward, resulting in A charging home into C?

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:46 am

Looks to me as though D cannot intercept as B is preventing D from crossing the charge path of A and D cannot contact B in an intercept. therefore, D does not move at all.

ravenflight · Post by **ravenflight** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:14 am

nikgaukroger wrote:Looks to me as though D cannot intercept as B is preventing D from crossing the charge path of A and D cannot contact B in an intercept. therefore, D does not move at all.

Agreed.

zoltan · Post by **zoltan** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:03 pm

Surely the fact that A will move through D's ZOI gives D the option to 'declare' an intercept charge, and move as far forward as possible before being halted by B's presence?

Or is declaring an intercept charge contingent upon the declarer actually being able to reach a position that is in the path of the charger?

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:28 pm

The latter.

I don't think the rules explicitly state this, however, IMO it is clearly implicit - if you don't actually get into the path of the charge you haven't intercepted

ravenflight · Post by **ravenflight** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:12 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:The latter.

I don't think the rules explicitly state this, however, IMO it is clearly implicit - if you don't actually get into the path of the charge you haven't intercepted

Another way of looking at this is that you CANNOT intercept charge into someone's flank or rear, as it doesn't pass through their line of charge. So you could be 1 mm directly behind someone declaring a charge and you can't intercept them. You'd have to wait until your next bound to charge them.

elysiumsolutions@fsmail.n · Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:34 pm

Another way of looking at this is that you CANNOT intercept charge into someone's flank or rear, as it doesn't pass through their line of charge. So you could be 1 mm directly behind someone declaring a charge and you can't intercept them. You'd have to wait until your next bound to charge them.

You can intercept into someones flank or rear. There are two possible mechanisms for an intercept charge on page 63. One is them charging through your ZOI the other is if you start in a position to charge the flank or rear of a BG and it declares a charge.

Paul

ravenflight · Post by **ravenflight** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:09 pm

elysiumsolutions@fsmail.n wrote:
Another way of looking at this is that you CANNOT intercept charge into someone's flank or rear, as it doesn't pass through their line of charge. So you could be 1 mm directly behind someone declaring a charge and you can't intercept them. You'd have to wait until your next bound to charge them.
You can intercept into someones flank or rear. There are two possible mechanisms for an intercept charge on page 63. One is them charging through your ZOI the other is if you start in a position to charge the flank or rear of a BG and it declares a charge.

Paul

Yes, I was confused. I was thinking (and have been for some time) that this is the same as the scenario where you can't intercept into a discovered flank - I.e. When your intercept would be on the chargers flank or rear when the charger had completed their charge

grahambriggs · Post by **grahambriggs** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:26 am

nikgaukroger wrote:The latter.

I don't think the rules explicitly state this, however, IMO it is clearly implicit - if you don't actually get into the path of the charge you haven't intercepted

They do state it. The two options are that an intercepiton must cross the path of the chargers or hit their flank/rear. This does neither, so can't intercept.

Lycanthropic · Post by **Lycanthropic** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:40 am

Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
It also looks like a nice flank charge if B wasn't in the way!

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:10 pm

This is very clear in the rules. I don't understand the debate.

An intercepting battle group cannot itself be intercepted

zoltan · Post by **zoltan** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:29 am

OK, just to put this one to bed I've tweaked the picture.

A declares a charge on C.

Although A will pass through D's ZOI, D is NOT permitted to declare an interception charge because B is in the way.
- D is NOT permitted to charge into B and then step forward up to the 2MU limit of its ZOI.
- D is NOT permitted to charge forward and stop a gnat's todger short of B as that would mean D has NOT met the interception criteria of 'crossing the path' of A

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:59 pm

zoltan wrote: D is NOT permitted to charge forward and stop a gnat's todger short of B as that would mean D has NOT met the interception criteria of 'crossing the path' of A

Without question. There is no intercept.

iversonjm · Post by **iversonjm** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:49 pm

hazelbark wrote:This is very clear in the rules. I don't understand the debate.

It doesn't really look like anyone is debating.

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:50 am

Definitely no intercept opportunity.