Units Moving Onto Hills Spotted By Lower Units - Question

Najanaja · Post by **Najanaja** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:21 am

Recently I've noticed that some units moving up onto hills or moving along the hill are spotted (and shot at) by enemy units not on hills. I'm pretty sure, in some cases certain, that there are no enemy lurking around on the hill.

Have I missed a rule change? Anyone else seen this?

Robert

Post by **pipfromslitherine** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:45 pm

Nothing has changed re: hills since ship afaik.

Cheers

Pip

junk2drive · Post by **junk2drive** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:52 am

As I recall, you have to move onto a hill undetected (no LOS to your unit by the enemy), then wait until the next turn to be hidden.

PirateJock_Wargamer · Post by **PirateJock_Wargamer** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:58 am

junk2drive wrote:As I recall, you have to move onto a hill undetected (no LOS to your unit by the enemy), then wait until the next turn to be hidden.

That sounds about right. I was struggling with this a while ago as, once enemy contact was made, I didn't have too many problems getting other units up hills and remaining hidden in the Bulge and Normandy maps but found it very hard to hide on hills in the more open desert maps.

Cheers

Najanaja · Post by **Najanaja** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:36 am

OK Thanks

Thinking on it a bit more, on one occasion the unit that moved onto the hill would have been seen by an airstrike in that turn.

Robert

Najanaja · Post by **Najanaja** » Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:15 am

I'm still puzzled.

I'm playing D-Day+3 as the Allies.

That big square hill on the German's left (important) was blacked out to all my units.

I moved an infantry unit forward to a forest hex that was not on the hill but could have LOS to it.

Suddenly all the German armour on the hill became visible.

This doesn't seem right based on my understanding of the rules.

Robert

We discussed this in an earlier post

Post by **pipfromslitherine** » Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:43 pm

I believe that infantry can always see anything next to them. Could that be the cause?

Cheers

Pip

Najanaja · Post by **Najanaja** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:23 am

pipfromslitherine wrote:I believe that infantry can always see anything next to them. Could that be the cause?

Cheers

Pip

No, definitely not in this case
R

Post by **pipfromslitherine** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:59 pm

If you can give me the various coordinates then I can check out the possible cause.

Cheers

Pip

Najanaja · Post by **Najanaja** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:18 am

How do I find the coordinates?

Robert

Post by **pipfromslitherine** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:03 pm

If you go into the editor you can choose to load up any of the existing missions - then the tooltip will tell you the coordinates of the tile you are over.

Cheers

Pip

Najanaja · Post by **Najanaja** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:27 am

Hmm.. I can't see "D-Day + 3" on the list

Robert

Post by **pipfromslitherine** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:51 am

The actual file names are different - the one you should look for is British_attack_MP from what I can tell.

Cheers

Pip

Najanaja · Post by **Najanaja** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:21 am

OK got it.

In the specific example i mentioned, my infantry moved to the forest at 24,20 and revealed all the units on the square hill (24,43 24,44 24,45......22,43 22,44 2245.

In other games playing the Germans I've been shot up on that hill when I felt I should have been able to ambush.

Thanks

Robert

Post by **pipfromslitherine** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:08 pm

Thanks for getting the info for me. I will take a look and see what is going on.

Cheers

Pip

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