How many Generals ?

Three · Post by **Three** » Sun May 15, 2011 10:12 pm

Is there any consensus growing about the number/quality of Generals best suited to different numbers of BGs?

I'm regularily getting army size of 12 BGs, most of whom are fighting units, so I've been looking to get 4 TCs as far as possible. I haven't really had enough games to try out different variations so I was wondering if anyone has a rule of thumb for the best combinations?

Scrumpy · Post by **Scrumpy** » Mon May 16, 2011 12:02 am

You can never have too many generals. I prefer 4 tc to get along with.

Blathergut · Post by **Blathergut** » Mon May 16, 2011 12:26 am

800pts = 4 TC

david53 · Post by **david53** » Mon May 16, 2011 5:13 am

IC and 1 x TC

kevinj · Post by **kevinj** » Mon May 16, 2011 7:25 am

Here is the breakdown from 2 recent UK competitions:

BHGS Challenge:

4xTC 10 players
GC, 2TC 1 player
FC, 3TC 1 player

Roll Call

4xTC 11 players
3xTC 1 player
3xFC 1 player
GC, 2TC 1 player

If 3 TCs does not sound enough, here are 2 potential things in favour:

1) It was used by one of the authors
2) He won the tournament

Three · Post by **Three** » Mon May 16, 2011 11:06 am

Well, 4 TCs seem to be flavour of the month, but I've just pointed out an 800pt Later PLC with 3 TCs that I really like the look of. I'll give it a go next time out and see how it performs.

Scrumpy · Post by **Scrumpy** » Mon May 16, 2011 11:45 am

I find you need one TC with each bg of the winged ones to get the best out of the army.

MatteoPasi · Post by **MatteoPasi** » Mon May 16, 2011 4:38 pm

1 FC + 2 TC
the FC in this period in essential if you wanto to have hany brigade, 4" are not enough to get even 3 units

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Mon May 16, 2011 4:41 pm

I have found needing 4 generals less common than in AM and have found a number of occassions where I had 3 quite sufficient. Once I had 2 witht he 3rd never arriving by flank march and even then it wasn't that bad. I lost, but not because I didn't have the extra general.

stecal · Post by **stecal** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:27 pm

MatteoPasi wrote:1 FC + 2 TC
the FC in this period in essential if you wanto to have hany brigade, 4" are not enough to get even 3 units

Exactly. the requirement for the units to be 1" apart really reduces the TC's range. I made that mistake in my first games. Always at least a FC from now on.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:46 pm

stecal wrote:
MatteoPasi wrote:1 FC + 2 TC
the FC in this period in essential if you wanto to have hany brigade, 4" are not enough to get even 3 units
Exactly. the requirement for the units to be 1" apart really reduces the TC's range. I made that mistake in my first games. Always at least a FC from now on.

I am missing something. I use the following formation frequetly do I have something wrong?
X, Y, Z are all 1 base width away from each other. The T is the TC everyone within range and the TC touches Z.

XXX_T_YYY
___ZZZ

With mounted I think you can do 3 BGs up front if the center one is only 2 bases wide.

stecal · Post by **stecal** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:06 am

Depends on the period & army. Try it with multiple tercios or pike keils & their supporting shot.

MatteoPasi · Post by **MatteoPasi** » Tue May 17, 2011 12:22 pm

hazelbark wrote:
stecal wrote:
MatteoPasi wrote:1 FC + 2 TC
the FC in this period in essential if you wanto to have hany brigade, 4" are not enough to get even 3 units
Exactly. the requirement for the units to be 1" apart really reduces the TC's range. I made that mistake in my first games. Always at least a FC from now on.
I am missing something. I use the following formation frequetly do I have something wrong?
X, Y, Z are all 1 base width away from each other. The T is the TC everyone within range and the TC touches Z.

XXX_T_YYY
___ZZZ

With mounted I think you can do 3 BGs up front if the center one is only 2 bases wide.

T must be behind unit where his attached, not on side

kevinj · Post by **kevinj** » Tue May 17, 2011 12:30 pm

T must be behind unit where his attached, not on side

T can be in front of ZZZ, as long as he maintains edge to edge and corner to corner contact with the central base he counts as with the BG for movement purposes (p69) and would be within command range for the purposes of divisional moves.

Moro · Post by **Moro** » Tue May 17, 2011 12:45 pm

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xxx_xxx_xxx
.....T
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Here a TC can command 3 frontline units, plus 3 supporting units... it seems to me quite enough!