Crazyg VS Thommo(no Thommo please)

After action reports for Commander Europe at War.

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Crazygunner1
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ImageRussians advance fairly late in the winter, doubt that he will reach my defense line in time to do any damage. I really hope that i tries casue then i will have a pretty good chance in taking the Russians out on the field when summer arrives. I predict that Stalingrad has 2 more turns to live....

More tanks and planes produced.

ImageI retreat to my almost fixed defense position, have also started a build up in the north. I plan to hit Moscow during next offensive. More tanks and fighters built.

I make around 95 barrels of oil each turn, will have around 750-800 barrels when summer arrives. During summer i figure to spend around 200 barrels wich means minus 100 each turn. So i have enough stockpiled for next summer....
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ImageStalingrad captured, Bryansk is in danger, thinking about bringing in reinforcements. Would be good to hold that city so i can march on Moscow without worrying about my flank. German INF there will last atleast 2 more turns, 5 in entrench and just upgraded survivability and ground attack.

In south rail link has been established with Caucasus again for the Russians, i have left one tank down there so i can cut the supply again. I plan on taking Caucasus from Persia and from the north as well. Shouldn´t be to hard....

I am wondering if he will continue advancing, we are already in end of January, maybe 2-3 turns left of winter.
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ImageRussians retreat, no furthere advance this winter i guess. Still forces outside Bryansk though.

Quite on all fronts, buil more tanks and fighters

ImageAll quite, RAF fighters have been at full research for some time now....luckily he hasn´t been able to use it that well.
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ImageAttack on Bryansk, he seems to take heavy casualties even with 2 bomber attacks. My research for infantry and radar is very good. As a matter of fact everything has been good exept fighter research...ha ha ironic.
ImageThey still hang around in Bryansk, the know the meaning of fighting...that is for sure.

ImageAdolf Hitler visits the front and quickly rewards the courages resistance in Bryansk
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ImageHermann Göring in picture with Adolf Hitler, though his contribution to the success is limited he is always quick to stand in the light with the Fuhrer celebrating victory.
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ImageAngle of attack in the north, small unit action closest to Leningrad. The northern group will receive reinforcements but will also split up into 2 different directions.

ImageArmy group centre will also split up into 2 directions. Recapture Stalingrad and the other up north to assist south of Moscow and take Kursk, Voronezh. Army group south smallest of the 3 will take Caucasus together with Persian units.
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ImageCouple of russian corps destroyed outside Stalingrad, closing in on all other fronts. I have exposed myself to some counter attacks but he is welcome to try....
ImageAfter moving up a bomber to get better visual around Moscow defenses, i was quite surprized to find it almost unprotected. Moscow should fall pretty easy....
ImageStill quite and no aditional landings spotted...
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ImageCounter attack near Stalingrad almost destroyed 1 tank. Thommo was also kind to move almost all units breaking their entrenchment.
ImageWith only half support of Luftwaffe the germans mount up a staggering total 11 corps destroyed this turn and several damaged. The others in full retreat or in a bad position.
ImageIn the north Moscow should fall next turn, there doesn´t seem to be that much more units than this....
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ImageRussians continue to retreat on all fronts exept around Moscow where a small force surounds 2 german units.

ImageAnother 11 russian corps destroyed and 4 more encircled around moscow. This is surely the end of the Red army....there can´t be much left. Moscow taken....expected counter attacks soon though.
ImageMy tigers and Panther tanks simply crush all opposition and steem onwards to their goals....
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ImageThe panther has proven itself to be an awesome weapon with it´s formidable long barrel and fast enough to catch up to retreating enemies.
ImageSeen here in action just outside Orel. In 1 1/2 month during summer campaign 43 the germans have completely destroyed the entire Red army. The rest is in bad shape or retreating....
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Post by Crazygunner1 »

After this turn Thommo has asked for an unconditional surrender on all fronts....

Do you think i should accept?
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Post by zechi »

Crazygunner1 wrote:After this turn Thommo has asked for an unconditional surrender on all fronts....

Do you think i should accept?
From my point of view you should accept, as it makes no sense to play against someone who does not really hopes to win and has no fun with playing the current game. Therefore it is better to accept and perhaps restart a "revanche".
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Post by afk_nero »

As much as I would like to see this carry on - I am sure that for Thommo this game isnt that much fun anymore as all hope of winning has now been crushed.

I think you have played an excellent game and have enjoyed reading the AAR - would love to see a rematch and see if Thommo learnt from his mistakes.

Excellent game. I think accepting his unconditional surrender is fair on Thommo.
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Post by Crazygunner1 »

afk_nero wrote:As much as I would like to see this carry on - I am sure that for Thommo this game isnt that much fun anymore as all hope of winning has now been crushed.

I think you have played an excellent game and have enjoyed reading the AAR - would love to see a rematch and see if Thommo learnt from his mistakes.

Excellent game. I think accepting his unconditional surrender is fair on Thommo.
Thanks guys....i have accepted his surrender and allowed Thommo to read my AAr.

Shall be interesting to see his input on the game. One thing i learned is that it is so hard to keep control of the atlantic as Axis. Subs are pretty much useless after 41-42 sometimes they last longer. Even if you build up a large surface fleet like i was planing with the Italians it is so hard to keep em floating without any aircover. Building CV to the atlantic is just out of the question, not worth it in terms of oil and PPs.

Anyone got some suggestions on how to stay competetive in the atlantic with Axis beyond 42?

Crazyg
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Post by thommo »

I have no chance in this game, the first reason is you are lot better player then me, the 2nd is my usual turns took about 10 mins while u made perfect once with hours of planning. I spend the same time every day because i love this game too, but am a fast minden person i have like 10 games going right now.

About the seas u just outplayed me badly, i should hold my ships back until i have enugh force to fight with u.
On the med, because u had the seas i had no reinfrocemnt at all, i think i made the best from the small forces i had, but i should left egypt empty and try to defend around Basra to keep the way open for the usa.

Western front, even with tact i still had no chance to land, but i was about to go for a fast invasion, mostly to help the russians, my cvs played the tac rolls. Had no money and no time to build both.

East, because my bad postion on the med, I made even bolder attacks then i used too :) This is worked on the first winter but didnt realized your growing forces on the 2nd, i should keep my forces back, but that ammount of oil and armor tech u had i had no chance no matter how much i wait.

You played very well, and when i saw your panzer wall at first i felt hopless and i knew i have no chance to do anything :)
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ImageI can see why there wasn´t any use figthing on. Later thommo told me he had 2 corps left.
ImageCaucasus would have untoubtably fallen. Even more oil to support my troops.
ImageIf Thommo would have kept fighting i had plans to invade England, transfer half the luftwaffe with 4-5 tanks and a couple of mechs to cross the channel. Already in progress this plan. Cv would have been built and in 44 US would have been threatened.
ImageThis area was very quite after the fall of Finland.
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ImageGermany´s strenght in this game has been very good. I had around 91% mapower all the game. That´s why it is so dangerous to allow any oilfields to the Axis.
ImageMore than 1/3 of all axis ground units the allies where facing was a tank at the end. Upgraded, state of the art and high organisation fighting machine.
ImageGerman science was very weak in fighter compare to the allies but i managed to keep up anyway. All other areas was really good including organisation early in the game.
ImageThe plan to have a grand italian fleet was not realistic. Even though italians would have good research their organisation would not keep up with the allies. So the italian surface fleet had to stay in port most of the time. I think this might be a good plan if Axis captured England and can keep airsuperiority.
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Post by Crazygunner1 »

Thommo, you say that i am much better than you, i think you did a very good job in the beginning of the game. Very aggressive and a lot of good delaying operations. A little to "reckless" in terms of losses maybe but that may sometimes not be an entirely bad thing. Just look at Super Max playing style, speed, pressure with no regards to losses and somehow it works and he ends up on top. After a while it seemed like you deviated from that plan, especially in Russia, you allowed me to advance into Russia with a small and weak force. Had you defended closer to the front and launched the same spoling attack as you did, i am sure things would have been very different. In general, the more operations the axis undertake before Barbarossa the weaker it will be and the closer to the border you can defend. Only saw one tank in Russia, try and use a combined army, cause all units have their benefits. Perhaps the reasearch in armour wasn´t that good but nonetheless they bring shock and respect to the table. Example if axis aproach dnepr defense river, they would be much less declined to attack if there where 5 tanks behind the river waiting. Axis must then assemble enough units and bring up luftwaffe support. That takes a couple of extra turns....time gained in Russia is very valuable.

To attempt D day in 1942 is very hard, germany is ussually to strong for that and will most likely throw back the invaders. Allies can´t simply muster up enough tacs and airpower to support that operation. The ground units are also to weak in terms of research and organisation, so they can´t handle their own. What you can do mostly is keep Italy busy and bomb Germany. That will bind a lot of valuable axis units. I see during the game that your strat research was maxed out early, try and use those kind of advantages to your benefit....to be honest i didn´t see you strat bomb germany a single time and with that research you had, even a single run could do a lot in damage.

A few thoughts on how you can improve you game....keep your playing style, i like it, very aggressive and remember, "attack is usually the best defense"

Crazyg
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