Something weird happened.

hidde · Post by **hidde** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:37 am

At the end of my opponents turn, before the chat window opened 3 of my bowmen

did anarchy and attacked and a couple simply moved on their own away from the enemy.
Then they could not be moved when my turn started proper.
Have never seen that before.

Xiggy · Post by **Xiggy** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:39 pm

I have not either, but I have been noting after my turn when I submit a turn, I see unit X has passed an anarchy test. I assume if they fail it, they will move and I wont be able to move them the next turn.

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:43 pm

Xiggy wrote:I have not either, but I have been noting after my turn when I submit a turn, I see unit X has passed an anarchy test. I assume if they fail it, they will move and I wont be able to move them the next turn.

Hmm, if your unit fails an anarchy test after you hit end turn, you should be able to watch them move and attack , and then the turn is sent. To be honest if they anarchy and failed to 'connect' w an enemy BG, Im not sure if you can move them on your next turn (yu should be able to)

What annoys me is when you move a bg, and then right click to change facing and then it decides to test and the a symbol pops up and voids your right click. More time than once this has caused me to fumble and face the wrong direction. The game also appears to test for anrchy even troops you have already moved, although not consistantly. Odd.

Morbio · Post by **Morbio** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:44 pm

TheGrayMouser wrote:
Xiggy wrote:I have not either, but I have been noting after my turn when I submit a turn, I see unit X has passed an anarchy test. I assume if they fail it, they will move and I wont be able to move them the next turn.
Hmm, if your unit fails an anarchy test after you hit end turn, you should be able to watch them move and attack , and then the turn is sent. To be honest if they anarchy and failed to 'connect' w an enemy BG, Im not sure if you can move them on your next turn (yu should be able to)

What annoys me is when you move a bg, and then right click to change facing and then it decides to test and the a symbol pops up and voids your right click. More time than once this has caused me to fumble and face the wrong direction. The game also appears to test for anrchy even troops you have already moved, although not consistantly. Odd.

If you get anarchy when changing face then simply redo the facing and it overrides anarchy and changes anyway. I figure that the anarchy on the face change is a bug and so I tend to ignore it and override it.

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:22 pm

Oh I realize that Morbio, what i mean is that i am a fast clicker and when the anarchy pops up it throws my 'clicking off" so i often face the wrong way... Same thing with the new map selctions, Ill hit play and click one xtra time impatiently as the game appears to hang while loading and next thing ya know I have selected the map on the lower left side inadvertently (likly the last area the mouse pointer was when you hit play...)

i wish you could "redo" a facing change as this has zero effect on LOS/fow calculations and is the booboo i make most often

Actually the booboo I make most often is with double moves when the game leaves that blasted green direction move trail and sometimes units will double back on themselves facing the wrong direction...

hidde · Post by **hidde** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:53 pm

Hm, I think I didn't describe this clearly.
My bowmen moved when I looked at my opponents turn. When all his moves were done and before the chat window came up (where I can read his message but not write myself).
Also, it was bowmen who charged or moved. They don't anarchy. They don't move...period, at the end of the other players turn

TGM, I'm pretty sure you can undo facing. If not my memory fails me misserably.

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:12 pm

I think you described it well enough, I just dont think anyone else has seen such a thing

Were they dismounted cavalry? or maybe those crazy highlanders that have bow* and impact weapon?

Oh , no ya cant undo a facing right click change , once set your stuck (at least w fow on, maybe you can change when off)

hidde · Post by **hidde** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:15 pm

TheGrayMouser wrote:I think you described it well enough, I just dont think anyone else has seen such a thing

Were they dismounted cavalry? or maybe those crazy highlanders that have bow* and impact weapon?

Oh , no ya cant undo a facing right click change , once set your stuck (at least w fow on, maybe you can change when off)

Ordinary Mf bows. Poor and superior from the Jewish list in LT. Zealots maybe...

I just undid facing in that very game but now I'm unsure if it's FOW on...no reason it should be off but I'll check next turn.

Morbio · Post by **Morbio** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:33 pm

I'm fairly certain that facing changes can be undone.

Hidde's problem does seem wierd... and the strange in game move too

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:52 pm

Non believers
You cannot undo a right click facing change whether fow is on or off, I just tried..

Any way, maybe I am lucky in that I dont watch replays so i miss out on all the para normal activity that goes on

Morbio · Post by **Morbio** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:12 pm

TheGrayMouser wrote:Non believers
You cannot undo a right click facing change whether fow is on or off, I just tried..

Anyway, maybe I am lucky in that I dont watch replays so i miss out on all the para normal activity that goes on

Not that I don't believe you.... well, actually it is because I don't believe you... I just tried it with FoW on and I can undo facing changes both before movement and after movement.

So, the only conclusions are;
- You're stark raving mad

- I'm stark raving mad

- We're both stark raving mad

- Or we completely misunderstand what we mean

- Or there is a preference setting that either allows or restricts this feature

Could Slitherine enlighten the utterly confused?

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:19 pm

All those are possible candidates , but let me illustrate what i am doing

Move BG fwrd 2 hexes and stop , right click on bg , the little white "angle" shows up that swivels by using the mouse pointer to effect the facing change/direction. Once the white angle is where you want, right click again and the bg changes facing. However , you cannot re right click again to change it to a differnt facing , the option for changing facing is gone whether fow is on or off.

Morbio · Post by **Morbio** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:22 pm

TheGrayMouser wrote:All those are possible candidates , but let me illustrate what i am doing

Move BG fwrd 2 hexes and stop , right click on bg , the little white "angle" shows up that swivels by using the mouse pointer to effect the facing change/direction. Once the white angle is where you want, right click again and the bg changes facing. However , you cannot re right click again to change it to a differnt facing , the option for changing facing is gone whether fow is on or off.

Ah, I simple press the undo button and it undoes the facing. As the meerkat says: 'simples'!

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:36 pm

Ahh the old undoe button trick, I had no idea it existed... Uh where is it??

Triarii · Post by **Triarii** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:25 pm

TheGrayMouser wrote:Ahh the old undoe button trick, I had no idea it existed... Uh where is it??

'Tis the 3/4 circled arrow button on the top menu bar which lies between the battle point score text and the flag for toggling command radius.
If FoW is on you can only undo a facing change that has not been followed by movement.
If FoW is off you can undo a whole move unless there has been contact and/or combat or you have done any moving with the 'next' unit.

I am so pleased to learn that you are not both mad as a box of frogs - I feel a warm glow of reassurance!

hidde · Post by **hidde** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:01 pm

bump

helloo...I belive this odd behaviour warrant a look.

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:39 pm

hidde, is it possible that you moved those bowmen before quitting the game for some reason? Happened to me one time after a late night session. Decided to go to bed part way through my move and forgot the next day that I had done so. When I started that game again, I was shocked to see some of my guys move without me doing anything. Then the chat window appeared. I posted it as a bug then found out the truth.

As for anarchy turns, this has happened to me often when trying to face after movement and I get the @ thing and no face. So I can try again and it will work? I didn't know that.

Deeter

hidde · Post by **hidde** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:53 pm

deeter wrote:hidde, is it possible that you moved those bowmen before quitting the game for some reason? Happened to me one time after a late night session. Decided to go to bed part way through my move and forgot the next day that I had done so. When I started that game again, I was shocked to see some of my guys move without me doing anything. Then the chat window appeared. I posted it as a bug then found out the truth.

As for anarchy turns, this has happened to me often when trying to face after movement and I get the @ thing and no face. So I can try again and it will work? I didn't know that.

Deeter

No. I have never, ever quitted partway through a turn

I opened the turn sent to me. Looked at all moves done by my opponent and when they were finished my guys started moving

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:02 pm

Strange. Of course, bowmen are not shock troops and should not anarchy charge.

Deeter