Please vote Baltic countries

Peter Stauffenberg · Post by **Peter Stauffenberg** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:20 am

We also have to settle what to do with the Baltic States. Please vote on the different solutions.

1a. Add a capital to Tallinn
1b. Add a capital to Riga
1c. Add a capital to Kaunas
1d. Keep as is for all 3 cities
1e. Only make a capital of Riga and let DoW upon Riga be a DoW upon all Baltic countries: UPDATE

2a. German DoW upon either of these countries will activate USSR as an Allied country
2b. 25% accumulated chance per Baltic country DoW to activate USSR. USSR will always mobilize
2c. Keep as is (Baltic countries neutral until USSR is DoW'ed upon).
2d. If only Riga is a capital then DoW upon the Baltic countries will mobilize USSR and have a 50% for Russian activation: UPDATE

Please notice that with 2b you lose the surprise efficiency loss if Russia activates. So it's very risky
to try to lure one or more of the Baltic countries from USSR

pk867 · Post by **pk867** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:38 pm

For 'a' if we need capitals to DoW then ok.

2b

Paul

gerones · Post by **gerones** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:51 pm

My votes are the same as Paul.

Just wondering if it will be needed a small territorial force (e.g. like danish army) in those countries previously to being invaded by USSR.

schwerpunkt · Post by **schwerpunkt** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:05 pm

Personally I think its best to leave the option out unless someone is prepared to play test the hell out of it. The whole concept and associated penalties will be guesswork so play testing for game balance will be critical.

PionUrpo · Post by **PionUrpo** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:43 pm

I agree with schwerpunkt, adding this option needs lot of testing and would be better left out if 2.0 is to be released in near future.

1d
2c

Blathergut · Post by **Blathergut** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:45 pm

i would vote leave out for now...release 2...then playtest this option over a long period of time

Hammer4000 · Post by **Hammer4000** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:31 pm

2b. 25% accumulated chance per Baltic country DoW to activate USSR. USSR will always mobilize

2B

dagtwo · Post by **dagtwo** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:43 pm

Keep it as it is please.

rkr1958 · Post by **rkr1958** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:54 pm

My votes are:

1d. Keep as is for all 3 cities

2a. German DoW upon either of these countries will activate USSR as an Allied country

This results in the minimum impact on what we have now. If we do anything else I do think we need to playtest the heck out of it as Neil stated. In effect even at 25% probability of enter that's a big enough chance that the axis player would have to assume if they invaded one of the Baltic States that they would have to deal with Russian activation. If they weren't then they could just simply resign and concede the game if their risky gamble didn't pay off. So from my view I think it's best as that Russia enters at 100% probability.

Now, on the other hand if we wish to implement a non-certain (i.e., 2b) Russian entry for the invasion of a Baltic State I would vote that this would be implemented as an optional rule (i.e., defaulted off) and the default being 100% probability.

BuddyGrant · Post by **BuddyGrant** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:35 pm

PionUrpo wrote:... needs lot of testing and would be better left out if 2.0 is to be released in near future.

Ditto...

1d
2c

NotaPacifist · Post by **NotaPacifist** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:06 am

Please, leave it as it is.

zechi · Post by **zechi** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:26 am

1e
2a