Diadochi anyone?

Blathergut · Post by **Blathergut** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:50 pm

Slow start to the battle. The Spartan right flank moved up and then began turning back but was caught (or was planned that way by wily Spartan). One lone phalanx BG was drawn out by anarchy.

Blathergut · Post by **Blathergut** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:07 am

Final: Blathergut Win 18900/5239 39/63 vs Grumblefish Loss 18600/6636 63/62

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:03 pm

I guess that leaves only one game outstanding for round 2: bates vs. mordio.

Deeter

batesmotel · Post by **batesmotel** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:07 pm

batesmotel Pyrrhic 50/56 - win
morbio Carthaginian 67/66

On the type of map with far more terrain than Pyrrhus likes, Pyrrhis finally achieved a Pyrrhic victory over the Carthaginians. After getting off to a strong lead by wiping out the Carthaginian right flank and some scattered lights, Pyrrhus attack foundered on the end of the steep ridge gallantly defended by the Carthaginian spearmen. Meanswhile the Carthaginian sweep around the Pyrrhic right flank nearly inflicted enough damage to turn the tide. Well played and thanks for the game, Morbio.

Chris

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:56 pm

Okay, here are the amtches for round three:

1. Batesmotel vs. Gudin
2. Deeter vs. Blathergut

Challenge posted. PW: deeter

Good luck,

Deeter

batesmotel · Post by **batesmotel** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:21 pm

deeter wrote:Okay, here are the amtches for round three:

1. Batesmotel vs. Gudin
2. Deeter vs. Blathergut

Challenge posted. PW: deeter

Good luck,

Deeter

Challenge posted for Gudin, password "diadochi".

Chris

Morbio · Post by **Morbio** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:36 pm

batesmotel wrote:batesmotel Pyrrhic 50/56 - win
morbio Carthaginian 67/66

On the type of map with far more terrain than Pyrrhus likes, Pyrrhis finally achieved a Pyrrhic victory over the Carthaginians. After getting off to a strong lead by wiping out the Carthaginian right flank and some scattered lights, Pyrrhus attack foundered on the end of the steep ridge gallantly defended by the Carthaginian spearmen. Meanswhile the Carthaginian sweep around the Pyrrhic right flank nearly inflicted enough damage to turn the tide. Well played and thanks for the game, Morbio.

Chris

For those that are interested: The Pyrrhic army started at the bottom and carthage at the top!

It was a close game and I was proud of my men... unfortunately a couple of silly mistakes in the beginning (levaing javelin LF on 'no evade' in clear ground in front of pikes cost me 4 (or was it 6) points which proved terminal

Maybe next time....

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:31 pm

Deeter (Ipsus Alliance) 31/59 vs. Blathergut (Ptolomaics) 57/54

As the armies formed up for battle, the Ipsus commander noted a decided lack of skirmishers in the Ptolemaic army despited the fact that both armies were roughly the same size. The mass of poor Egyptian phalangites accounted for this, and their presence was very nearly decisive!

The Ptolemiac commander massed all his lancers on his left and sought to avoid combat with his right. The Ipsus army avanced in echelon on its right, refusing the left and braced to recieved the eventual lancer charge of the enemy. The Guard pikes formed the refused line, while the ordinary pikes got into a running fight with the retreating enemy right, eventually bring it to a halt through some rear charges. This and the repulse of the Ptolemaic cavalry was probably decisive.

As the battle came to an end, the emeny made some stunning gains, even threatening to surround the Argyraspides. Quite an unexpected end to a good game. Thanks, Blathergut!

Deeter

Blathergut · Post by **Blathergut** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:48 pm

Was good!

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:28 pm

Any news on the Batesmotel vs. Gudin match?

Deeter

Morbio · Post by **Morbio** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:32 pm

BatesMotel seems to have disappeared. I hope he is OK.

Maybe the victory over Carthage took too much out of him

gudin · Post by **gudin** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:05 pm

Well we managed to finish

gudin (Macedonians) 41/51 win
batesmotel (Pyrrhic) 58/56

One REALLY bad round with the dice was enough to turn a slogging match into a loss by Pyrrhus. Add to that a later not quite as bad a turn.

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:52 pm

Congrats, gudin. This means you and I will play the final match of the Diadochi games for all the marbles. I'll post a challenge. PW: deeter.

Deeter

gudin · Post by **gudin** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:17 am

deeter wrote:Congrats, gudin. This means you and I will play the final match of the Diadochi games for all the marbles. I'll post a challenge. PW: deeter.

Deeter

Thanks. I accepted the challenge.

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:25 pm

The Diadochi wars are over. Final game:

Deeter (Ipsus Alliance) 57/59 vs. gudin (Macedonians) 61/56

The map was fairly open except for some steep hills favoring gudin's right which he filled with Thracians and Thorakitai. A large phalanx occupied his center. Many lancers massed on the Greek left. The Ipsosians advanced in echelon, denying their right in the hope of delaying engagement with the Greek cavalry. In the event, the enemy MF completely dominated on their flank, while the Seleucid phalanx utterly routed its foes.

The cavalry battle swayed back and forth but here too the Seluecids eventually prevailed. On the final turn, gudin's C-n-C fell in the cavalry battle an as did the Ipsos cavalry commander. Greek thorakitai were trying to sack the camp. Had they done so one turn earlier, gudin would have won a much-deserved victory.

Overall, gudin made a remarkable come back. After losing his first game, gudin went on to defeat two very strong players in succession and very nearly defeated the Alliance. Congrats on a great game. Embarrassingly enough, I declare the winner of the Diadochhi tournament to be...me. Thanks to all who participated.

Deeter

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:30 pm

Finally, I hope you all had a good time. I know I did. I love these big pike battles and every one was memorable. I'm considering putting together another tourny along simliar lines, but better organized. I think the Swiss chess system would be better than what I improvised for Diadochi, which would mean an eight-player roster with everyone staying in the tourney until the end. Finding eight different but competitive non-shooty/hordy armies is challenging, but 205 B.C. might be a good setting.

Any thoughts? All input is welcome.

Deeter

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:31 pm

I had great time, thanks again for putting this together and look fwrd to another. I am not sure what a swiss system is but this system seemed ok too. I think there is enough non-shooty armies that would make some good/sufficent matches set in 203 bc. Rome, 4 Pike armies, Gauls, maybe Pergamum/Pontics.

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:27 pm

Have to research this more, but in essence using a minimum pool of eight players it is possible to have everyone play throughtout the rounds until a winner is determined. No knockout eliminations and no one plays another player more than once. Wikipedia explains it pretty well, but haven't looked at it in a while. I'm glad you had a good time.

Deeter

Morbio · Post by **Morbio** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:43 pm

I enjoyed it too. It was a great challenge playing spears versus pikes and I was pleased to sneak a few wins too!

thanks for pulling this together Deeter, much appreciated

batesmotel · Post by **batesmotel** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:20 pm

Despite my complaints about Pyrrhus lack of MF, I had a great time in this. Thanks for running it and count me in when you try another one.

Chris

Diadochi anyone?

Round Three Results

Diadochi finale