Colonies and Conquest

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:26 pm

MING CHINESE
KOREAN
JAPANESE
JAPANESE WARRIOR MONK ALLIES
IKKO IKKI
MONGOL
TIBETAN
MUSLIM INDIAN
HINDU INDIAN
INDONESIAN OR MALACCAN
THAI, BURMESE AND KHMER
VIETNAMESE
DESERT BEDOUIN
SETTLED ARAB STATES
ETHIOPIAN
ZANJ
HORN OF AFRICA
MAORI AND PACIFIC ISLAND CULTURES
HAWAIIAN
COLONIAL PORTUGUESE
MUGHAL
WOKOU PIRATES
JURCHEN, LATER JIN AND QING
COLONIAL DUTCH
MARATHA

kevinj · Post by **kevinj** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:35 am

I have received an email from Amazon to tell me that this has been delayed

Has anyone else had anything?

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:10 am

Not a sasuage

quackstheking · Post by **quackstheking** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:42 pm

Tip - cancel the Amazon order and order instead from Caliver - I recieved my C&C on Wednesday from them!

Don

Scrumpy · Post by **Scrumpy** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:08 pm

Got my copy at Cold Wars. Looks it's usual nice pictures & layout. For me there were one or two interesting armies & troop types in there.

azrael86 · Post by **azrael86** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:47 am

amazon UK claim to have dispatched

kevinj · Post by **kevinj** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:59 am

They have made the same claim to me...

kevinj · Post by **kevinj** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:26 am

... and it's just arrived

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:37 am

kevinj wrote:... and it's just arrived

Bah. I haven't even got my advance copy yet!

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:40 am

rbodleyscott wrote:
kevinj wrote:... and it's just arrived
Bah. I haven't even got my advance copy yet!

Ditto.

I blame McNeil

azrael86 · Post by **azrael86** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:11 pm

Likewise.

But I would like to question page 31, where a specific rule change has been applied to address a miniscule point - i.e the extra 1 AP per base for 'Samurai dragoons'. It seems to me that this is the wrong way to handle it, for numerous reasons.

1. If armoured dragoons cost more, then the rule book should say so (like the old 'arab and indian horses' rule).
2. Unlike the other 'in list' changes, we've seen this increases the cost - I'm only waware of the 'free javelins' of B&G, so I might be wrong about this
3. It makes list checking much more difficult - I only noticed it because the cost for the unit was coming up 'wrong' on the spreadsheet...cue ..If army=Japanese AND trooptype="Dragoon"...
4. Frankly this is most significant in my mind - this has been done for a troop type that you can have THREE elements of in the army, and none in an ally, and for 23 years of the 150+ covered by the list!

Surely it would have been easier to say, OK, we missed it, so they get free armour, it's just 2 or 3 bases!

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:17 pm

azrael86 wrote:Likewise.

But I would like to question page 31, where a specific rule change has been applied to address a miniscule point - i.e the extra 1 AP per base for 'Samurai dragoons'. It seems to me that this is the wrong way to handle it, for numerous reasons.

1. If armoured dragoons cost more, then the rule book should say so (like the old 'arab and indian horses' rule).
2. Unlike the other 'in list' changes, we've seen this increases the cost - I'm only waware of the 'free javelins' of B&G, so I might be wrong about this
3. It makes list checking much more difficult - I only noticed it because the cost for the unit was coming up 'wrong' on the spreadsheet...cue ..If army=Japanese AND trooptype="Dragoon"...
4. Frankly this is most significant in my mind - this has been done for a troop type that you can have THREE elements of in the army, and none in an ally, and for 23 years of the 150+ covered by the list!

Surely it would have been easier to say, OK, we missed it, so they get free armour, it's just 2 or 3 bases!

Indeed, it is a shocking outrage. Nik and I are dishonoured and will commit seppuku immediately.

azrael86 · Post by **azrael86** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:30 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:

Indeed, it is a shocking outrage. Nik and I are dishonoured and will commit seppuku immediately.

I should think so.

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:47 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
azrael86 wrote:Likewise.

But I would like to question page 31, where a specific rule change has been applied to address a miniscule point - i.e the extra 1 AP per base for 'Samurai dragoons'. It seems to me that this is the wrong way to handle it, for numerous reasons.

1. If armoured dragoons cost more, then the rule book should say so (like the old 'arab and indian horses' rule).
2. Unlike the other 'in list' changes, we've seen this increases the cost - I'm only waware of the 'free javelins' of B&G, so I might be wrong about this
3. It makes list checking much more difficult - I only noticed it because the cost for the unit was coming up 'wrong' on the spreadsheet...cue ..If army=Japanese AND trooptype="Dragoon"...
4. Frankly this is most significant in my mind - this has been done for a troop type that you can have THREE elements of in the army, and none in an ally, and for 23 years of the 150+ covered by the list!

Surely it would have been easier to say, OK, we missed it, so they get free armour, it's just 2 or 3 bases!

Indeed, it is a shocking outrage. Nik and I are dishonoured and will commit seppuku immediately.

And there was I thinking we had put it in as a service so that it guaranteed something for somebody to complain about

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:25 pm

Amazon UK claim to have dispatched my copy but no sight nor sound of it...

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:30 pm

I now have my copy, time to look at the options.

azrael86 · Post by **azrael86** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:29 pm

In fairness, I liked the insight that "Vietnam was poor cavalry country".