Picking a army

[andy63]

Hi chaps just sent my army list in for Leeds next weekend,and i found it difficult to get 800pts exactly.
It dont help when you have to have even no"s of BG i can understand why you want to have even BG but is there scope to allow say up to 1 skirm BG to be uneven.

[rbodleyscott]

Hi chaps just sent my army list in for Leeds next weekend,and i found it difficult to get 800pts exactly.
It dont help when you have to have even no"s of BG i can understand why you want to have even BG but is there scope to allow say up to 1 skirm BG to be uneven.

I understand your pain, but if you do have to field a 795 point army, or even 790, it really won't make much difference. The requirement is for armies to be no more than 800 points, they don't have to be exactly 800 points. We were half way through our game the other day before I realised my opponent's army was 900 points. It lost.

[plewis66]

Richard, I think that means you should only take 700pts to Leeds to give us a fighting chance

Seriously, tbough, I'd have to agree that a few points here and there make little difference. At first I had exactly the same concern as Andy, but after playing several games its become clear that you can always get within a whisker of the 800 with an army looking just how you'd like.
Also even 10pts in 800 is barely more than 1%, and I can't say I've ever seen it make the slightest diference.

[coldknight]

Something id like to know, what are these points about???
Are they for commanding points or something?
thanks for answering

[plewis66]

Each side in a battle picks troops from lists up to a particular points value.

The number of points you are allowed to pick is determined either by agreement between gthe players (in a friendly game), an nuber set by competition organisers, or by other mechanisms is less ususal circumstances.

In competitions where thbere is one player per side ('singles'), the number of points is usually 800 per side.

The cost of troops is determined by their relative effectiveness, so, for example, one 'base' of heavily armoured, elite knights might cost as much as 29 points, On the other hand, one 'base' of unprotected, poor quality foot skirmishers might cost as little as 2 points!

What troops you can choose, and what their capabilities ( and therefore. costs) are is determined by the army list you chose to use.

For example, a Medieval German army can choose to take heavily armoured knights, but an Imperial Roman army cannot.

Hope that helps.

[andy63]

Hi chaps just sent my army list in for Leeds next weekend,and i found it difficult to get 800pts exactly.
It dont help when you have to have even no"s of BG i can understand why you want to have even BG but is there scope to allow say up to 1 skirm BG to be uneven.

I understand your pain, but if you do have to field a 795 point army, or even 790, it really won't make much difference. The requirement is for armies to be no more than 800 points, they don't have to be exactly 800 points. We were half way through our game the other day before I realised my opponent's army was 900 points. It lost.

Cheers Richard.

[neilhammond]

I'd add the following comment regarding coldknight's question: The army lists (which will be published as supporting books to the rules) tell you what type of troops you can have in an army, but they won't give you an exact army order-of-battle. For example an imperial roman army can have legionaries and auxiliaries (there is a compulsory mininum for each). The player can choose to take more legionaries or auxilaries, or he may choose other troops types in the roman army list - heavy cavalry, light horse, skirmishers, allied troops, artillery, field fortifications, etc. He can't take medieval knights or Greek pikemen because they aren't in the roman list.

The army points represent a "budget", which you can choose to spend, selecting troops from the army list. For example, you can take a lot of horsemen and fewer infantry to represent an eastern roman army (or because your preferred game play / style of play involves cavalry attacks on the wings while the infantry hold the centre, or whatever). Or you could take a lot of infantry and only a few horsemen because you want to rely on the infantry winning the game.

A veteran roman legionary base costs, for example, 14 points. If the romans were fighting a gallic army then a gallic warband base might cost 7 points, so typically you'd expect to see twice as many gallic warband as roman legions in a standard 800 point game. The romans infantry are better in combat and manoeuver better, but the gauls have twice as many bases. So the game will become a tussle between numbers on one side versus quality on the other.

Regards
Neil

[coldknight]

oh ok i understand, thanks very much neilhammond