V is a base of LH and the V indicates the direction facing (in column)
A B C & D are enemy facing the LH
_ are spacers
E,F & G are enemy in close proximity to the Lighthorse
_A
E
V<__B
VF
V>>__C
G
_D
Are any of A-G to the LH rear?
I think only E-G are becasue they are behind the front edge of the front of the column.
They may be to the enemy rear but done of these can contact the rear of the column. Is a rear charge possible?
Which of A-D would result in a flank charge?
I think this is only A and D
If A& D can only do regular frontal charges which direction the the LH evade if they elect to evade to their own rear?
edit: got it. it was the html = on that was preventing my using < and > signs - interpreting it as a tag
Front? Rear?
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expendablecinc
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Front? Rear?
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Re: Front? Rear?
anthony Edit: modified the embedded diagram as it copied the ascii before I got is right. the intent of the pic is that the columns rear and front are both to thesame direction.expendablecinc wrote:V is a base of LH and the V indicates the direction facing (in column)
A B C & D are enemy facing the LH
_ are spacers
E,F & G are enemy in close proximity to the Lighthorse
_A
E
V<__B
VF
V>>__C
G
_D
Are any of A-G to the LH rear?
I think only E-G are becasue they are behind the front edge of the front of the column.
They may be to the enemy rear but done of these can contact the rear of the column. Is a rear charge possible?
Which of A-D would result in a flank charge?
I think this is only A and D
If A& D can only do regular frontal charges which direction the the LH evade if they elect to evade to their own rear?
Last edited by expendablecinc on Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Diagrams still not consistent with each other, or the text. Try using "code" and previewing your message.
In general, if the charger is behind the FRONT edge of the target it can do either a flank charge or a rear charge. Which one it is depends on whether you hit a side edge (flank charge) or a rear edge or corner (rear charge).
If other BGs obstruct the charge, then obviously it can't charge.
Depending on the initial facing of your BG, you may be able to wheel 90 degrees and do a flank charge from behind the rear, or a rear charge from out to the side.
IMO a BG evading to its own rear will go in the direction faced by the rear edge of its rearmost base.
In general, if the charger is behind the FRONT edge of the target it can do either a flank charge or a rear charge. Which one it is depends on whether you hit a side edge (flank charge) or a rear edge or corner (rear charge).
If other BGs obstruct the charge, then obviously it can't charge.
Depending on the initial facing of your BG, you may be able to wheel 90 degrees and do a flank charge from behind the rear, or a rear charge from out to the side.
IMO a BG evading to its own rear will go in the direction faced by the rear edge of its rearmost base.
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Think I understand the diagram.
For me, and it's not gospel, but
A & E are to the rear. F and B are not behind the rearmost rear edge so not to the rear, even if they turn 90deg or more they will not hit a rear but a flank.
F is to the flank
D is not a flank as it is not past the front edge of the front of the column
How do you figure G is to the rear of the LH, it is patently infornt of them... assuming V really does show direction?
Not sure about B & C as they face away. If they are LH and there is no max wheel then they may be able to charge if it's legal.
For me, and it's not gospel, but
A & E are to the rear. F and B are not behind the rearmost rear edge so not to the rear, even if they turn 90deg or more they will not hit a rear but a flank.
F is to the flank
D is not a flank as it is not past the front edge of the front of the column
How do you figure G is to the rear of the LH, it is patently infornt of them... assuming V really does show direction?
Not sure about B & C as they face away. If they are LH and there is no max wheel then they may be able to charge if it's legal.
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Your comments helped me understand the diagram. I'm assuming the LH are facing down the page. B & C are on the flank of the LH. So it would be a flank charge if they are in position to charge. Page 53, last sentence, 1st column, says a wheel while charging cannot be more than 90 degrees.stenic wrote:
Not sure about B & C as they face away. If they are LH and there is no max wheel then they may be able to charge if it's legal.
Note to expendablecinc: Also check out pages 55-57 and particularly the last sentence on page 55. C has to start with a minimum of 1 full base behind the front edge of V or it cannot be a flank charge.