Battle of Blore Heath, 1459

stockwellpete · Post by **stockwellpete** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:20 am

This is an early battle from the Wars of the Roses . . .

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15461007/Blore% ... 201459.rar

Many thanks to Bryant (Bmacster) and Frank (frankpowerful) for help with the play-testing.

omarquatar · Post by **omarquatar** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:34 pm

hi pete
i just played a battle against the AI (harmless as usual) and am wondering what the purpose of those lancastrian units named "yorkist barricade" that sit inside the little round ditch...

stockwellpete · Post by **stockwellpete** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:17 pm

omarquatar wrote:hi pete
i just played a battle against the AI (harmless as usual) and am wondering what the purpose of those lancastrian units named "yorkist barricade" that sit inside the little round ditch...

Hello Frank, in those days they couldn't even trust the carts to stay loyal!

Actually, it is a good point you raise. I have just checked the scenario, it is as it should be - and they are Yorkist carts, in fact, and they are on the right-hand side of the Yorkist position. In the real battle, the Yorkists built a laager-type defensive formation with their baggage train - and they also dug the ditch that you can see at the rear of their position. This was because they feared Lancastrian reinforcements arriving during the battle. In the scenario, that area should be IMPASSABLE to all troops - I didn't use the impassable terrain feature in the game because it looks like a volcano!

I have put a Bosworth Field play-test on the system for us to do (there are two, in fact, but our usual password "hat******" will work on one of them).

EDIT: Frank, I have just noticed what you have - and that is that I have used Side 1 carts when I should have used Side 2. I have made a note of it, but it doesn't matter for now because the VP rating of each part of the barricade is zero, so break points are not affected. Presumably with editing, I would have to withdraw the original copy from Dropbox and then submit the new edited version. Correct? I'll wait and see if anything else crops up before editing this first version.

omarquatar · Post by **omarquatar** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:48 pm

stockwellpete wrote: EDIT: Frank, I have just noticed what you have - and that is that I have used Side 1 carts when I should have used Side 2. I would have to withdraw the original copy from Dropbox and then submit the new edited version. Correct? I'll wait and see if anything else crops up before editing this first version.

of course...
seems a very good scenario to me, don't know if it is also balanced because the lancastrian AI was so dumb and suicidal
i will play it in MP as soon as that little error is corrected

stockwellpete · Post by **stockwellpete** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:48 pm

omarquatar wrote:
stockwellpete wrote: EDIT: Frank, I have just noticed what you have - and that is that I have used Side 1 carts when I should have used Side 2. I would have to withdraw the original copy from Dropbox and then submit the new edited version. Correct? I'll wait and see if anything else crops up before editing this first version.
of course...
seems a very good scenario to me, don't know if it is also balanced because the lancastrian AI was so dumb and suicidal
i will play it in MP as soon as that little error is corrected

Error corrected now, Frank.

In play-testing we had some very close battles with this one.

stockwellpete · Post by **stockwellpete** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:11 pm

An updated version of this scenario will be posted soon.

Here it is . . .

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15461007/Blore% ... 201459.rar