Steve and Don, comments on Usk.

donm · Post by **donm** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:05 am

Now that Steve and I have had a chance to sit down and reflect on Usk, here our some of our thoughts.

1. We enjoyed all the games. Even Saturday afternoon, when Bruce had us in all sorts of trouble and deserved to beat us 32-0..
2. The basic mechanisms seemed to work well ??“ CMT, Combat and Cohesion.
3. We liked the difference between the various foot troops. Hammy and Martin used missile armed light foot to great effect against us.
4. We certainly do not want to see medium foot changed. I think if you are not careful you are in danger of changing things for a small minority of opinion and making all close order foot look very bland.
5. The ???Problems??™ seemed to be with movement and the exact sequence of events within bounds.
6. I struggled most with routing and pursuing, as it is possible within various bounds within the same move.
7. We did think that 4 generals within an 8 BG army seems a ???little over the top??™. Well done to Bruce for spotting this and giving it a go. It certainly worked against us.
8. Should generals affect BGs of elephants in the same way as other troops? I am sure that real life generals did not control them with as much certainty. Should they not be unpredictable?
9. We felt it good that all troops have a chance of winning combats ??“ even if it can be a little frustrating when you are on the side that has the advantage and misses!
10. There were those who commented that it did not really look like an ancient battle, and to a certain extent we agree with that. However, we cannot think of any rules we have seen that always looks like our idea of an ancient battle. Certainly, in most cases DBM does not look realistic. We feel that the fact the game flows so well is more important.
11. From what we could see at the weekend there is going to be relatively little need to look up the rules on a regular basis. Once you have played a few games it does seem easy to remember most of the factors.

Steve and I have decided to stop now for a couple of weeks. I have just painted a load of new WWII Rapid Fire 20mm British that I want to use. We will also give DBMM a go when they are published.

We feel sure that you will be coming with a new version, following all the feedback from Usk and would like to come at that a fresh. Following my conversation with Simon about war wagons at Usk, I look forward to seeing rules for these in the next version.

In conclusion, we both enjoy the rules and like the feel they give. The basics are just fine, it is the detail to cover all eventualities that is missing.

Don M

shall · Post by **shall** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:54 am

Thanks chaps we shall but that into the boiling pot. I think we are about 10 items through the 38 logged at present....busy are the bees behind the scenes...enjoy the ww2 games.

Si

Ps will you be posting this to the open forum? or the list?

donm · Post by **donm** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:46 pm

Si,

I haven't posted anywhere else, but could do if you like. Can do after I have posted the games detail.

I was going to post my 'Usk army choice' to the list tonight and have just come online to do that.

Don M

shall · Post by **shall** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:16 pm

Personally I think it will be goodfor the hobby to get the "so far so good" positive vibe out there. Also good to point out that we are not trying to klll off DBm - we are trying to give the hobby a new breath of freah air and choice and perhaps provide a future in the post Phil era. If lots of peopel like it great. Anything to that effect is a good thing now IMHO.

Si

donm · Post by **donm** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:29 pm

Si,

It appears that my days of posting to the BHGS list are over

A message I tried to post last night gave a 'to be approved' message and has not appeared today.

Don M

shall · Post by **shall** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:53 pm

Big brother is watching you my friend.....I am sure it will all get sorted out sensibly soon. Maybe they are deciding its yes to general material but no to detailed battle reports.

Si

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:53 am

Big Brother is actually confused as to what happened with Don's account - Yahoo appears to have reverted him to moderated all on its own. He now has unmoderated access as far as I can see so hopefully he can post without my intervention.

donm · Post by **donm** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:49 pm

I have solved the problem and left the group.

I have staff at work who claim that the computer acts on its own.

Don M

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:11 pm

There was never a problem with your posts that needed solving with unsubscription from the group as far as I could see.