Bayonet armed troops

david53 · Post by **david53** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:36 am

I have looked in the Beta testing rules and the main rules but can't find anything about Bayonet armed troops at impact or melee, have i missed something or is there no plus's for troops armed with this.

Dave

hood_mick · Post by **hood_mick** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:48 am

They cancel POAs.

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:49 am

Go back and read the Impact and Melee PoA tables - "foot with bayonet" are mentioned a few times ...

Hint - look in the right hand column.

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:01 am

hood_mick wrote:They cancel POAs.

And CT modifiers

david53 · Post by **david53** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:35 am

my mistake again

footslogger · Post by **footslogger** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:19 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
hood_mick wrote:They cancel POAs.

And CT modifiers

Hmmm, I don't see them mentioned in the CT table.

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:16 pm

footslogger wrote:
rbodleyscott wrote:
hood_mick wrote:They cancel POAs.

And CT modifiers
Hmmm, I don't see them mentioned in the CT table.

Oops, you are right.

footslogger · Post by **footslogger** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:09 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
footslogger wrote:
rbodleyscott wrote:
And CT modifiers
Hmmm, I don't see them mentioned in the CT table.
Oops, you are right.

I do think I can discern your intent. On the medium foot, warriors, or dragoons line, I've pencilled it in to read medium foot not armed with bayonets, etc. I'm sure that's what you meant, right?

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:15 am

footslogger wrote:
rbodleyscott wrote:
footslogger wrote: Hmmm, I don't see them mentioned in the CT table.
Oops, you are right.
I do think I can discern your intent. On the medium foot, warriors, or dragoons line, I've pencilled it in to read medium foot not armed with bayonets, etc. I'm sure that's what you meant, right?

No no, the rules are as written, I just didn't look at the rules before I posted.

This is not a rules erratum.

MF with bayonet get better POAs vs Mounted than MF shot without (net 0 instead of net -- vs mounted with an impact POA) , but if they lose they are just as likely to crack.

It could be argued that this is a bit harsh, but we don't want the armies from right at the end of the period to dominate tournaments. To avoid this we needed to err on the side of giving every system its pros and cons.

It may well mean that the rules are unsuitable for the War of the Spanish Succession/Great Northern War - but they were never meant to be.

footslogger · Post by **footslogger** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:54 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
we don't want the armies from right at the end of the period to dominate tournaments.

Yes 'we' do!