Hellenistic Greek list issues (1.2.11)

[batesmotel]

1) Thureophoroi should have the option to be all HF instead of MF as in the TT lists.
2) The later Hellenistic Spartan list, at least for part of the period covered, should not allow as many pikes as the Achaian list. (The Spartans has a lower limit in the TT list, I believe to reflect Cleomenes army. The limit may be lifted later in the period. I don't have my list here to check.)
3) Hoplites probably should not be 0-0, at least while the maximum number of pikemen is limited. (Not certain what theTT list does.)

Chris

[grumblefish]

1) Thureophoroi should have the option to be all HF instead of MF as in the TT lists.
2) The later Hellenistic Spartan list, at least for part of the period covered, should not allow as many pikes as the Achaian list. (The Spartans has a lower limit in the TT list, I believe to reflect Cleomenes army. The limit may be lifted later in the period. I don't have my list here to check.)
3) Hoplites probably should not be 0-0, at least while the maximum number of pikemen is limited. (Not certain what theTT list does.)

Chris

If we put the Cleomenes thing in place, then shouldn't we up the quality of his pikes to Superior given they were an elite unit?

Also, Aratus did not field pikes as far as I can tell; it was Philopoemen who changed it, and he did that almost two decades after the Cleomenean war. That they have any pikes before the very end of the 3rd century BC is a bit of an anachronism; however, to keep things exciting and make good use of the allies list, we could make Macedonia an allied army, so we can get some DAG battles that look a tad like the Cleomenean War

[keithmartinsmith]

Thureophoroi should have the option to be all HF instead of MF as in the TT lists

This was covered when Rise of Rome was released. We decided NOT to allow this option in any list. All Thureophoroi and will be listed as MF.

Keith

[keithmartinsmith]

Fixed all the above ready for 1.2.12.

Keith