Army, getting started

tobpal02 · Post by **tobpal02** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:46 am

I am new to wargaming but extremly interested in the new FOG Renaissance ruleset. I have read the FOG rulebook and now I am planning to buy the FOG Renaissance ruleset, but I want to get started with buying and painting an army before the releasedate.
I dont own an army yet, so I am curious of the estimated amount of figures needed to be able to build, say an 800p TYW protestant/swedish army, and if possible the amount of figures needed of the different unit types, pike, shot, dragoons, cavalry etc.

puster · Post by **puster** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:17 am

Perhaps it would be prudent for Slitherine to publish two "starter armies" for ECW, TYW, IW and WOR well ahead of the general release. There seem to be not a few gamers out there who are itching to build one.

chubooga · Post by **chubooga** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:26 am

would be great.......

....and if they dont list the details of the units, poitns costs etc... then we will still buy the books!

just figures needed for army.....

jon

mellis1644 · Post by **mellis1644** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:26 pm

Welcome to the hobby & period.

before you start buying, you need to work out what scale - 15mm or 28/30mm are the two main ones for this period. Finding out what local opponents play is the best idea. Depending upon your location in the world that may have a factor as well. I believe many comps in the UK/US use 15mm but some people do play with 28's. Find some local players and what they use is my recommendation - if you can.

Then rather than aiming for a full list, I would suggest starting to painting up pike & shot foot and general pistol armed troops. I believe there is a thread in this board which shows an example English Civil War army. That's not what you explicitly want, but it will be somewhat close - I suspect.

The rules will be out in a couple of months, so that will likely get you started till the official lists are available. Hope this helps.

Mark

tobpal02 · Post by **tobpal02** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:42 pm

Thanks gentlemen. This has been unvaluable help. I think I will go for 15mm as my friends are, for the moment, using that scale in this period. Do you think ECW figures will pass as TYW? The range of ECW figures seems larger than TYW...

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:25 pm

tobpal02 wrote:Thanks gentlemen. This has been unvaluable help. I think I will go for 15mm as my friends are, for the moment, using that scale in this period. Do you think ECW figures will pass as TYW? The range of ECW figures seems larger than TYW...

For later TYW armies yes, for early TYW armies less so.

nickdives · Post by **nickdives** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:28 am

In 28mm I have made up 28 x 16 Pike/16 shot units. They are pretty generic and Royalist, Parliamentarian, Danish, Swedish and Imperialist flags abound!At home for a large battle be it ECW or TYW they all come out. They are all based on 40 x 40 stands (4 Figs per stand) I have a few surplus shot than can bolster unbits if reuired, or I can simply not deploy a whole unit, if say, they are early Royalist with less shot than Pike etc.

If I was to put on a demo game then I would be a little more careful, about who was banded with who etc, allthough I do have a couple of spare cadre bases which give extra flexibility, together with a few spare flags.

sultangazhir · Post by **sultangazhir** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:43 pm

I beleive that pikemen will be 4 men to a 15mmx40mm base with the front row at level for their pikes and the back row will have pikemen standig with raised pikes and shotte will be 3 men to a 20mmx40mm base(for 15mm scale of course)or 2 men for skirmish/forlorn hope stands of the same size but I could be wrong.I am also stocking up on my armies since I will be building several opposing armies as well in 15mm.

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:39 am

sultangazhir wrote:I beleive that pikemen will be 4 men to a 15mmx40mm base

20mmx40mm is the standard size, but 15mmx40mm is also permitted for compatibility with FOGAM armies.