Elephants and longbow men stakes

madmike111 · Post by **madmike111** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:46 am

Played a game on the weekend where I discovered that my elephants ignore the stakes placed by longbow men. While this was a pleasant surprise is this correct as I would have thought that stakes would work just as well on elephants as they do against knights?

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:14 am

Since elephants knock down trees with gay abandon stakes would not cause them much problem.

kal5056 · Post by **kal5056** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:11 pm

[quote="philqw78"]Since elephants knock down trees with gay abandon [quote]

What 2 elephants of consenting age do behind closed doors has no place being discussed on this board.
Gino
SMAC

SirGarnet · Post by **SirGarnet** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:31 am

kal5056 wrote:
philqw78 wrote:Since elephants knock down trees with gay abandon
What 2 elephants of consenting age do behind closed doors has no place being discussed on this board.
Gino
SMAC

What a dirty mind! They were knocking DOWN trees, not knocking them UP.

(Apologies to confused Britons, for whom knocking up someone means a friendly visit)

kal5056 · Post by **kal5056** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:20 am

MikeK wrote:
kal5056 wrote:
philqw78 wrote:Since elephants knock down trees with gay abandon
What 2 elephants of consenting age do behind closed doors has no place being discussed on this board.
Gino
SMAC
What a dirty mind! They were knocking DOWN trees, not knocking them UP.

(Apologies to confused Britons, for whom knocking up someone means a friendly visit)

We really are 2 countries seperated by a common language aren't we?
Gino
SMAC

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:27 am

I've been knocked up a few times.

zoltan · Post by **zoltan** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:57 am

I get knocked down... (chorus).

peteratjet · Post by **peteratjet** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:09 am

The longbow men still get the benefit of MF not being in open terrain though, don't they? So it's not a complete waste, even though they do not offer complete protection against unwanted pachydermal advances.

SirGarnet · Post by **SirGarnet** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:19 am

peteratjet wrote:The longbow men still get the benefit of MF not being in open terrain though, don't they? So it's not a complete waste, even though they do not offer complete protection against unwanted pachydermal advances.

I fear PDs are not an anti-pachydermal prophylactic.

On a serious note, MF in open terrain still count in open terrain unless defending field fortifications (see definition of open terrain). Portable defences count as field fortifications against mounted other than elephants - they provide no defensive benefit. However, troops defending PD don't conform to enemy attacking across them (even if the PD provides no defensive benefit). See p 121. This ensures the PDs are not lost by conforming away from them unless taken in flank or rear.

So that counts for something.

ShrubMiK · Post by **ShrubMiK** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:48 pm

>(Apologies to confused Britons, for whom knocking up someone means a friendly visit)

Hmm. I think that may be one of those regionally-specific things! I don't recall ever hearing it used that way.

But I also think you should apologise to confused Americans, who as far as I have been able to ascertain "visit with" rather than "visit" somebody