Basing

david53 · Post by **david53** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:38 am

Hi There
if you have either large 15mm or the way that they molded 4 can't fit on a 40mm by 20mm base without a right squeece is it possible to have three figures on a 40 x 20mm base as heavy foot. I thought being on the correct base width there should'nt be a problum but was just looking for a few answers.

Dave

Petefloro · Post by **Petefloro** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:19 am

I believe so yes,because it says you can on the top right of page 127. Also I've seen some 3 fig HF bases at our club,no one objected. I suppose as long as you declare them as heavies when they are placed on the table,it's fine.

kevinj · Post by **kevinj** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:35 am

No problem, except HF should be on a 40x15 Base.

david53 · Post by **david53** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:37 pm

kevinj wrote:No problem, except HF should be on a 40x15 Base.

My mistake

shadowdragon · Post by **shadowdragon** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:27 pm

kevinj wrote:No problem, except HF should be on a 40x15 Base.

I think that should be "HF should preferably be on a..." as the guidance given in the rule book is that depths can be increased to accomodate large figures. I haven't found it to be necessary to increase HF depths even with Xyston's Republican Roman figures, but it is a squeeze.

david53 · Post by **david53** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:37 pm

shadowdragon wrote:
kevinj wrote:No problem, except HF should be on a 40x15 Base.
I think that should be "HF should preferably be on a..." as the guidance given in the rule book is that depths can be increased to accomodate large figures. I haven't found it to be necessary to increase HF depths even with Xyston's Republican Roman figures, but it is a squeeze.

The deapth is'nt my issue its that trying to fit 4 figures to a 40mm base can be a tight fit and spoils the painting of the figure IMO. If I use the correct base size for Heavy foot and explain it too any person I play I hope it will be good enough.

shadowdragon · Post by **shadowdragon** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:14 pm

david53 wrote:trying to fit 4 figures to a 40mm base can be a tight fit and spoils the painting of the figure IMO. If I use the correct base size for Heavy foot and explain it too any person I play I hope it will be good enough.

Agree. Also, in my view, when it comes to undrilled HF like some Ancient Spanish or Gallic HF, 4 figures to a base just isn't right - even if you can fit them on the base. Three figures in very different poses spread out over a 40mm X 15mm still allows others to distinguish the HF from MF.

kevinj · Post by **kevinj** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:30 am

If it stops you from using girly light horse armies I'm sure nobody will object

mellis1644 · Post by **mellis1644** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:27 am

I've am very tempted to use 1 less fig for all elements with 28/30mm figs. This would allow better placement and more cost effective armies as well. Thus, HF have 3, MF 3 or 2, LF has 1 fig per element etc. The same would be true for mounted.

As all the troop/element types would still be obvious I hope that no one would object to this.

Rekila · Post by **Rekila** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:42 am

We use 28mm fig on our early renaissance armies (I have already posted some photos). 3 fig for HF, 2&3 for MF (half the bases with 2 half with 3) 2 fig for LF and 2 fig for all mounted. They look fine and allow great flexibility. E.g the MF crossbowmen bases at 2 fig could be used as LF if necessary. Mounted troops (stradiots for example) also can to be used as cavalry or LH. As it is easy to see the difference between the units we have had no problems.

Polkovnik · Post by **Polkovnik** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:51 am

Rekila wrote:.....the MF crossbowmen bases at 2 fig could be used as LF if necessary............... As it is easy to see the difference between the units we have had no problems.

Those two phrases seem to be contradictory. If 2 figure bases can be MF or LF, how can it be easy to tell the difference ? Having some 2 figure bases representing MF and some representing LF (or cavalry and LH) would be confusing IMO.

Rekila · Post by **Rekila** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:58 pm

Polkovnik wrote:
Rekila wrote:.....the MF crossbowmen bases at 2 fig could be used as LF if necessary............... As it is easy to see the difference between the units we have had no problems.
Those two phrases seem to be contradictory. If 2 figure bases can be MF or LF, how can it be easy to tell the difference ? Having some 2 figure bases representing MF and some representing LF (or cavalry and LH) would be confusing IMO.

Not at all. A MF BG of 8 bases will have 20 fig. with a command base (banner etc) A LF BG of 8 bases (rare) will have 16 fig (no command base). We have no problem telling who is who. The same for mounted troops: no problem to recognize Knights. The problem may arise, in units that can be cavalry or LH. But if you say that you field the stradiots as cavalry your opponent will have no problem recognizing them. Obviously all must be classified the same, but to have some acting as cavalry and others as LH seems strange anyway.