Principate Roman Question

[LambertSimnel]

Can the 'Archers attached to legionary or auxilliary foot (not archer) battle groups' be attached to 'Seperately deployed legionary lanciarii' battle groups or not?

EDIT:
and can they be attached to 'Marines recently converted to legionaries' battle groups or not?

[timmy1]

Interesting question to which I know not the answer but will be very interested to find out.

[Ghaznavid]

The list notes state quite clearly that Lanciarii BGs can not include archers, so not sure why there is doubt. Marines are slightly more interesting, as the list stands I would permit it. They are clearly Legionaries now so covered by the legionary foot condition, are not expressedly forbidden from having archers by the list notes and far as I know Roman Marine contingents included archers anyway. Probably not as part of the 'boarding crews', but at least the specialist archers would be available if you convert the melee specialists into legionaries.

[timmy1]

Karsten

In my case 'The list notes state quite clearly that Lanciarii BGs can not include archers, so not sure why there is doubt' it is because I am stupid :)

I spent all last weekend looking at the list and missed that.

[Ghaznavid]

Maybe pursue a career in politics then. Selective perception seems to be an absolute requirement in that area.

[paulburton]

The list describes marines as having been 'converted to legionaries' so the option is presumably available as they have become 'Legionaries'.

The option is based on Arrian for 137 (ish) AD against the Alans. I am not aware of anyone else using this deployment, though since he wrote it up his tactical manual would have been available to later commanders so extending the benefit of the doubt is not unreasonable here.