Mounted Billmen

Eques · Post by **Eques** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:18 am

Was given some nice looking mounted billmen as a present but sadly can't find them in the WOTR list. Does anyone know if they played any role historically, or did they dismount to fight?

Thanks

gozerius · Post by **gozerius** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:18 am

They dismounted to fight.

LambertSimnel · Post by **LambertSimnel** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:27 pm

gozerius wrote:They dismounted to fight.

Just out of interest, did they remount for pursuits like the mounted longbowmen of the Hundred Year War occasionally did?

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:42 pm

LambertSimnel wrote:
gozerius wrote:They dismounted to fight.
Just out of interest, did they remount for pursuits like the mounted longbowmen of the Hundred Year War occasionally did?

Probably, but the rules work on the premise that such pursuits occur after the enemy army has reached its break point, so do not need to be modelled in the game.

It would be different if you were playing a campaign, in which case you would need rules for pursuits etc. (Although in previous campaigns I have found it more convenient to work this out using a formula rather than actually play it out on table. So mounted longbowmen etc would receive some sore of a bonus, compared with foot longbowman, in the pursuit formula.)

Lycanthropic · Post by **Lycanthropic** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:14 am

Try them out as Light Horse Heavy Weapon, they can't shoot, are crap when charging mounted, get no factors against skirmishers, and cause spontaneous laughter!

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:16 am

Lycanthropic wrote:Try them out as Light Horse Heavy Weapon, they can't shoot, are crap when charging mounted, get no factors against skirmishers, and cause spontaneous laughter!

You are on form today.
Protected, undrilled, average/poor, cav, dismounting as Armd, Drilled, super/average, HF, hvy Weapon. CMT to dismount. You'd need balls to use that. Perhaps everyone would just dismount at the start, a bit like in the rules.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:02 am

LambertSimnel wrote:
gozerius wrote:They dismounted to fight.
Just out of interest, did they remount for pursuits like the mounted longbowmen of the Hundred Year War occasionally did?

Yes at Agincourt and Crecy the english mounted up and charged all the way to Paris at a Gallop, not stoping for water.

OK maybe there was one battle where a unit of 1000+ archers did this. But the examples are usually small actions of dozens not thousands.