How to use RoR armies in Scenario Designer?

[decaf]

In the Scenario Designer, the unit menu only allows choices from
the FoG units. I can not select anything from my RoR units.

Is it possible to create scenarios (custom games) involving the
new RoR units (such as Illyrians)? If it is possible, is this process
documented somewhere? Can someone help me?

If this is not possible, I would recommend that a patch be made that
allows expansion folders to appear in the unit menu and which allows
selection of units in that expansion.

Thanks for any help.

[TheGrayMouser]

Every single unit graphic in ROR can be used in the scenario editor, there is an additional dropdown that itemises most of the new units by arrmy. Note that some graphics are not easily found and you kind of need to search a little...

[Ironclad]

The drop down menu for RoR units appears when you click on the Images button.

[Brigz]

So when using the editor, in order to create one of the BG's from RoR you can only pick one of the images and then you have to fill in the data for that BG yourself? Seems like it would be much simplified if you could just import one of the Army list BG from RoR directly to the editor. When using the DAG these BG's are automatically created when you select them, why not the same function in the editor?

[decaf]

Dear Ironclad and Grey Mouser -- I really appreciate your help.
But it really isn't working the way it should, IMHO.

Yes, I can get a drop-down menu under the Images button in
the Scenario Designer. What happens is that those images are
stored in folders that don't match the army I want to use.
For example, there is no Illyrian image folder or any Illyrian
units on the right in the unit list. Gray Mouser, if there is a way
to access a menu that holds RoR army units in the Scenario
Designer, could you tell me how to invoke it?

I see that armies are collections of images and statistics.
Let's take a new RoR army, Illyrian, as an example
What I have discovered, by digging thru 1060-illyrian.xml, is
that all the Illyrian images are just taken from other army
folders. So, yes I can sit down with a piece of paper and
get the right image to show up in the Scenario Designer.
But I feel the Scenario Designer should have direct support
for the Illyrian army -- not have me decode it.

The bigger problem comes from making sure that the army
unit statistics match. Here's another example. Suppose I
want to build a scenario with Pontic (late) Chalybes. I look
up the 1132-pontic.xml file and see the image is tagged to
misc-MF-cappadocian-foot-a in the "other" folder. Fine.
But, the unit stats for the Cappadocian MF are different that
the stats for the Pontic (late) Chalybes! For example, the
armour code for the Cappadocian MF is "3", but the Chalybes
armour code is "4". The impact weapon and the melee
weapon codes don't match either.

Brigz, I agree with you 100%. Right now it looks like you
have to print out the unit xml, and use it to construct a unit
bit-by-bit -- checking all the stats. And, then, do it all over
again for the next (identical) unit you want to create.

Dear Slitherine, is anyone there reading this?
Have I got it wrong? Is there some special key combo
that will give us direct access to RoR units in the Scenario
Designer? Right now it looks like the Scenario Designer
only provides indirect support for the expansions. We are
talking about the Scenario Designer incorporating the xml
files found in the .\armies\rise-of-rome folder. Can this
be fixed in a patch?

[Retreat_in_shambles]

I click on "images" and can't find - for instance - any of the Later Jewish units in the selection box to the right. Does anyone know where they are?

Thanks in advance.

[decaf]

Dear Retreat....,

Exactly my problem. The RoR units don't show up.
Not in the unit list on the right, nor in the images pop-up
menu.

The info on what constitutes a Later Jewish unit is in an
XML file that is stored in a rise-of-rome subdirectory in the
armies directory. The Scenario Designer seems to be
"unaware" that the RoR XML exists.

I've posted this problem to the Tech Support board.
Hopefully, we'll get a response from Slitherine. Feel
free to add your thoughts to that thread.