agreed...or very very rare...i think this FOG thingie can go too far. The idea of cataphracts hiding behind pikes and suddenly bursting out is a tad much imo. A bit of FOG, like not seeing behind a hill or something, adds a nice little flavour...but let's not over-do it.batesmotel wrote:For what it's worth, I can't think of any accounts of ancient battles where troops deployed the main line of battle (ignoring skirmish screens out in front) seem to have caused a major surprise by appearing in the middle of the battle. There are certainly accounts of troops deployed in ambush before a battle being a factor, e.g. Lake Trasimene or Trebia, but other than troops that were hidden by terrain to start with, it doesn't seem like Fog of War was a major factor in determining the outcome of ancient or medieval set piece battles. If anything, FoG PC may go a bit too far in having individual BGs obscure other BGs from the same side.
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Historic Examples
Actually - some of the battles of history does give examples of large troops hinding behind rank and file troops - an example would be the great Elephant Victory (Seleucids vs Galatians). The Elephants were hidden behind the battle line of Pike. 
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Re: Historic Examples
Also, any battle where a flank was weighted unbeknownst the enemy, such as the second battle at Mantinea. Both flanks were weighted at Marathon.CharlesRobinson wrote:Actually - some of the battles of history does give examples of large troops hinding behind rank and file troops - an example would be the great Elephant Victory (Seleucids vs Galatians). The Elephants were hidden behind the battle line of Pike.