Choices

[NZsam03]

While I have posted a similar list not to long ago, a closer look at the swords and scimitars book, I have come up with two lists I am thinking about

List A
Fatimid Egyptian Pre 1074
1 CinC Troop Commander
3 Sub Generals Troop Commanders
4 Berber Lancers Cavalry Armoured Average Drilled Lancers Swordsmen
6 Arab Lancers Cavalry Armoured Superior Drilled Lancers Swordsmen
4 Mamluks Cavalry Armoured Superior Drilled Bow Swordsmen
4 Mamluks Cavalry Armoured Superior Drilled Bow Swordsmen
6 Berber Foot Heavy Foot Protected Average Undrilled Defensive Spearmen
3 Archers Light Foot Unprotected Average Undrilled Bow
6 Berber Foot Heavy Foot Protected Average Undrilled Defensive Spearmen
3 Archers Light Foot Unprotected Average Undrilled Bow
4 Berber Light Horse Light Horse Unprotected Average Undrilled Javelin Light Spear
4 Berber Light Horse Light Horse Unprotected Average Undrilled Javelin Light Spear
4 Bedouin Cavalry Light Horse Unprotected Average Undrilled Lancers Swordsmen
6 Separate Archers Medium Foot Unprotected Average Drilled Bow
8 Dailami Medium Foot Protected Superior Drilled Impact Foot Swordsmen
6 Lutat Macemen Heavy Foot Protected Average Drilled Heavy Weapon

List B
Syrian States with Arab Cities Allies
1 CinC Troop Commander
2 Sub Generals Troop Commanders
4 Ghilman Cavalry Armoured Superior Drilled Bow Swordsmen
4 Ghilman Cavalry Armoured Superior Drilled Bow Swordsmen
6 Syrian Lancers Cavalry Armoured Superior Undrilled Lancers Swordsmen
4 Turcomans Light Horse Unprotected Average Undrilled Bow Swordsmen
4 Turcomans Light Horse Unprotected Average Undrilled Bow Swordsmen
4 Turcomans Light Horse Unprotected Average Undrilled Bow Swordsmen
4 Bedouin Cavalry Cavalry Protected Average Undrilled Lancers Swordsmen
4 Bedouin Cavalry Cavalry Protected Average Undrilled Lancers Swordsmen
4 Bedouin Cavalry Cavalry Protected Average Undrilled Lancers Swordsmen
4 Armoured Spearmen Heavy Foot Armoured Average Undrilled Defensive Spearmen
6 Ahdath Militia Heavy Foot Protected Poor Undrilled Defensive Spearmen
3 Archers Light Foot Unprotected Poor Undrilled Bow
6 Ahdath Militia Heavy Foot Protected Poor Undrilled Defensive Spearmen
3 Archers Light Foot Unprotected Poor Undrilled Bow
Arab Cities Allies
1 Ally General Troop Commander
4 Armoured Lancers Cavalry Armoured Average Undrilled Lancers Swordsmen
6 Ahdath Militia Heavy Foot Protected Poor Undrilled Defensive Spearmen
3 Archers Light Foot Unprotected Poor Undrilled Bow

So what do you think?

[benos]

personally i think the syrian city states benifit hugely from crusader allies rather than arab ones.
The poor def spear make a good road block but you need something to work the skirmish around. A better player than me could probably use the lancers in that way but i find the brute force of knights a safety net i need.
The other point in favour of the syrians is the better light horse. Turkomans are useful all round while the bedouin are very good anti-skirmisher troops in my experience.

Ben

[NZsam03]

Sound good

Anyone else??
Also in terms of history, which Syrian State allied with which Arab city, and When?

Thanks